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Obama 'Lying' About Muslim Past, Expert Says
Newsmax ^ | 10/09/2008 | David A. Patten

Posted on 10/09/2008 8:24:05 PM PDT by curth

Barack Obama is lying when he insists that he has never prayed in a mosque and was never a Muslim, a prominent Middle East expert and journalist says.

Daniel Pipes, founder of the Middle East Forum think tank, says he fully accepts that Obama is a Christian now. But there is strong evidence that Obama received a Muslim upbringing during his years in Indonesia, Pipes said.

It's fine with me that he was a Muslim and a convert to Christianity, Pipes told Newsmax. Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal is a convert from Hinduism. I have no problem with his conversion. What I have a problem with is that he's lying when he says he was never a Muslim.

Newsmax asked whether Pipes is alleging outright that Obama has lied about having a Muslim upbringing.

Pipes response: The evidence suggests to me that he is lying, yes.

Pipes told Newsmax, It would start with the fact that his father was a Muslim granted, not a practicing Muslim, but in the Muslim world, if your father is a Muslim, you're a Muslim. His father named him Hussein, which is a name only given to Muslim babies. He went with his stepfather to a mosque. They celebrated certain Muslim holidays at the mosque together. He had knowledge of the Koran. He had knowledge of Muslim prayers. You put all this together, he was a Muslim.

Pipes contends that a Nov. 12 post on Obama's Web site headlined, "Barack Obama Is Not and Has Never Been a Muslim," stated: "Obama never prayed in a mosque. He has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian."

Today, that post bears the same headline, but does not include an assertion that Obama never prayed in a mosque and and has never

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2008; danielpipes; election; electionpresident; elections; islam; koran; liar; mohammedanism; muslims; mymuslimfaith; obama; obamuslim; pipes; quran; sharia
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1 posted on 10/09/2008 8:24:06 PM PDT by curth
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To: curth
Gee, Obama lying to obfuscate something about about his past??

Can't be, or surely the New York Times would have been all over it months ago.

2 posted on 10/09/2008 8:31:42 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: curth
Frankly, I don't think Obama is Christian or Muslim. I think he's what all corrupt socialists are, a liar and an opportunist who will use any prop handy to climb his way to power. His "faith" is just a prop.
3 posted on 10/09/2008 8:38:15 PM PDT by workerbee (Sarah Palin's very existence is a threat to the Left.)
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To: curth

obumpa


4 posted on 10/09/2008 8:40:47 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: curth

If Obama were really a Christian he would not ridicule the Bible and its application to present day society.


5 posted on 10/09/2008 8:40:54 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American

Wish someone would ask him, it is his website.

McCain certainly won’t...who will?

Just cite the inconsistent website.


6 posted on 10/09/2008 8:40:57 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (Wright, Ayers, Alinsky, ACORN and Odinga - Attack!!)
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To: curth

You can take the boy out of the mosque but you can’t take the mosque out of the boy.


7 posted on 10/09/2008 8:42:07 PM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult is the soundtrack to the Revolution.)
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To: workerbee

The ‘there are many ways to heaven” crack pretty much proved that.


8 posted on 10/09/2008 8:42:54 PM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult is the soundtrack to the Revolution.)
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To: Salamander
"The ‘there are many ways to heaven” crack pretty much proved that."

And "heaven" is evidently on Pennsylvania Avenue for Obama, since he's willing to sell his soul to get there.

9 posted on 10/09/2008 8:45:22 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: curth

In the eyes of muslims, once you’re a muslim, you’re always a muslim. You are either lying to the infidels if you say you aren’t but really still are, or you’ve got a death sentence against you.


10 posted on 10/09/2008 8:48:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: curth

In the eyes of muslims, once you’re a muslim, you’re always a muslim. You are either lying to the infidels if you say you aren’t but really still are, or you’ve got a death sentence against you.


11 posted on 10/09/2008 8:48:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: curth

I hope somebody catches him staring at a certain direction towards Mecca several times daily, or whether he refuses to use a mensroom facing the wrong way in relation to Mecca.

There is a lot of Islamic traditions there that will trip him up publicly, he has already made a gaffe about his “Islamic beliefs” so its possible to see how he handles situations Muslims avoid, has he ever had a pet dog for starters, will he come into contact with one, will he eat pork?
Does he secretly washes his feet several times daily?


12 posted on 10/09/2008 8:59:54 PM PDT by Daniel Ramsey (Live from Wasilla, Alaska)
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To: curth

The first thing Obama did in the Illinois Senate was declare a Muslim holiday. This is odd, isn’t it, if one is a Christian?

Obama sponsored Bill SR0110 in the 90th General Assembly
to declare November 1, 1997 to be Islamic Community Center Day.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/summary/900SR0110.html

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/srgroups/sr/900SR0110LV.html

The resolution died in 1999.


13 posted on 10/09/2008 9:05:23 PM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: curth

Maybe Osama HUSSEIN Obama is not a “daily prayer-rug, moon-rock worshipping, jihad against the infidel” muslim, but he’s most certainly a “KENYAN-born, INDONESIAN-raised, hate-whitey, pro-louis-farrakan & nation of islam, black panther appeasing, pro-communist & American-hating, coming out of the closet” muslim and a 20-year member of Rev’rund Wright’s trinity of hate church.

You just can’t lie THAT ONE’s background away, even with 24-7 media bias spin attempts to keep covering it up.


14 posted on 10/09/2008 9:05:30 PM PDT by RasterMaster (CHANGE is not a destination - HOPE is not a strategy!)
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To: curth
Pipes is almost there

Obama and the Inconvenient Truth

15 posted on 10/09/2008 9:06:34 PM PDT by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE and Help Beat Obama)
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To: Daniel Ramsey

I don’t think he does the feet washing thing. There was a report by CBS, of all things, that said his plane smells really bad.


16 posted on 10/09/2008 9:15:04 PM PDT by curth (Sarah Palin:Gods gift to America -McCain-Palin '08)
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
My response on my blog to a commenter who asked ~~

"Why should Obama be held accountable for his religious upbringing as a child?"

If you think that is the issue, then you are mistaken. The issue is not Barack Obama's religious upbringing, but rather his deception regarding that upbringing. I'm sure you have seen the comments from other Obama supporters here who have conceded that fact and then moved on to question the relevance.

The majority of Americans, myself included find this kind of Clintonian equivocation employed by Obama to be disgraceful and unbecoming of someone who aspires to lead our nation. Quite simply it will lead to his downfall.

Obama and his supporters know in their hearts that the truth will come out - it always does - and as such they want everyone to just "move on". But we're not playing for toothpicks here Mr. Brown. This is the Presidency of the United States we're talking about. Something that we can't and won't allow Barack Obama to disgrace.

continued...

Rick Moran Succumbs to Obama Mania

17 posted on 10/09/2008 9:15:36 PM PDT by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE and Help Beat Obama)
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American; Salamander
"And "heaven" is evidently on Pennsylvania Avenue for Obama, since he's willing to sell his soul to get there"

I'm beginning to believe that we're dealing with an ego and an agenda that goes far beyond the White House.

No hard proof yet, just an inspired guess - and I've got a GREAT track record on my guesses.
18 posted on 10/09/2008 9:31:14 PM PDT by shibumi (...vampire outlaw of the milky way...)
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To: expatguy
"Obama and his supporters know in their hearts that the truth will come out - it always does - and as such they want everyone to just "move on"."

That, in fact, was the inspiration for the anti-freedom Leftist group MoveOn.org --when some sadly misguided liberals wanted the nation to just "move on" and ignore the fact that we had a lying scum bag in the Oval Office in Bill Clinton.

Little did they realize at the time how much service they would prove to be to the Prince of Darkness in strengthening his grip on this nation.

19 posted on 10/09/2008 9:34:57 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: curth

daniel pipes has a credible background.


20 posted on 10/09/2008 9:40:56 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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