[pabianice]

If a fraudulent birth certificate falls in the forest and everyone has their fingers in their ears, does it make a sound? The press WILL HIDE EVERY OBAMA LIE AND CRIME until after the election. We have to do better.

[DemonDeac]

I’m looking forward to seeing cases against some cases against some cases against Obama’s “Birth Certificate.”

[mnehring]

hmmmm.. ping Pissant. I think he means Certificate of Live Birth.. but anyway, if the poster wouldn't give you a courtesy ping, I will...

[surely_you_jest]

TROLL ALERT -

Koyaan
Since Aug 22, 2008

[ravingnutter]

**Sniff, sniff**...you signed up a few days ago and only post to the Obama birth certificate threads? Oh and apparently, newbie, you aren’t familiar with etiquette on FR. If you discuss another poster, you are supposed to ping them. Go back to the DNC convention.

[Red Steel]

Can you tell me what the difference written on Hawaiian COLBs “Date Accepted By State Registrar” vs. “Date Filed By Registrar”?

[mkjessup]

So does your paycheck come from FactCheck.Org, or direct from the Obama campaign?

You have a real head of steam about this issue for a n00b.

I call TROLL on ya.

[mnehring]

By the way, why are you coming here calling out Pissant? All he (and others have done) is discuss the issue. Most of the information about this comes from Hillary supporters and it is Hillary's camp who filed several lawsuits against Obama’s candidacy. You may want to start barking at the Hilldog. No Republican smears here, we are just observing..

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

Did you join just to pimp for Hussein?

Your only posts, LOL!

[Red Steel]

Explain the that the “Factcheck” Obama COLB border edge is not a straight line? Does the Hawaiian Health Department produce less than professional documents?

[Red Steel]

Polarik writing about "FactCheck's" COLB : I did not talk about "strange halos" around the letters, but well-known and well-defined white and gray pixel halos BETWEEN the letters,

Basically everything inside the borders were far superior in quality to the borders themselves. Proof-positive that they were added post-hoc to a forged image.

So finding "well-known and well-defined white and gray pixel halos BETWEEN the letters" is a tell-tale sign of forgery? Correct?

[Red Steel]

You said on Polarik's thread: I assume he meant left side and right side instead of left side and left side. However in any case, this is absolutely incorrect. The two vertical sides of the border in the FactCheck image are not divergent.

They only appear at first glance to be divergent due to the underlying border of the "new 2007 COLB" being skewed counterclockwise. The width of the border in the FactCheck image is the same at the bottom as it is at the top. There is no divergence.

If Polarik properly overlaid the two COLBs, which I believe he did, than there is a divergence of the border lines.

[PLMerite]

At the end of the day, forged or not, this COLB was created in 2007.

His mother should have been given a Hawaii State Birth Certificate in 1961. I’m sure Barack Hussein Obama has had to produce it more than once in his life. This should be another instance.

[henbane]

Why all the fussing around with digital images in cyberspace?

What is required to lay this whole issue to rest is the presentation of a REAL foldable, crinkleable 3-D Certificate of Birth--and not some ambiguous green, blacked-out, laser-generated, endlessly examined abomination of a virtual document.

Why can't the Obama people come up with an actual legit certificate that can be handed around and slapped down on the table?

Like these plain ordinary people can:

[Polarik]

Is that all you got?

Maybe you can tell us why the top fold in the photo is slanted while the top fold in the image is horizontal and parallel to the border?

OR tell us why the the seal on the photo shows up about 3000% better than the scan?

Maybe you'd like to show us an image of these "scanner artifacts," which you will not find anywhere on the Internet

Perhaps you will show us how these mysterious "scanner artifacts" appeared on the Kos COLB by recreating one?

Or, that second fold. Where did it go?

Or, put your money where your mouth is, and bet me that the Kos image is a real scan. Go ahead, make my day.

[JerseyHighlander]

Thank you for expounding on our objections here Koyaan.

As is often the case, the loudest more annoying jackasses end up setting the tone of debate on online forums, and though I’m certain a large majority of Freepers with a particular interest in this will agree with you, they have, just as you will do soon, given up on this nutcase conspiracy and abandon the debate floor and let the lunatics take over the rotunda.

This COLB bullshit has been one of the lowest points in FR’s history. FR’s owners have in the past banned Bauer, Keyes, Guiliani, Steve Forbes, and Ron Paul supporters, but this crew of gutter trash conspiracy theorists roam free on this forum to this day.

And quite frankly, there is no reason for you to stay, because the interested parties whom you have exposed are a vindictive bunch, and will hound you here. If you stay, more power to you.

So, thank you, and I hope you find another conservative online forum to participate in, and best of luck with your audio venture.

Regards,
JH

[Polarik]

Which part of "check back for updates" did you NOT understand?

You could have saved yourself all this work because I no longer have them listed as possible direct comparisons.

I kept only the things that I could demonstrate, such as no second fold (said that, what..two months ago), diagonal top fold, prominent embossed seal on photo, not on scan etc.

[newzer1]

"Both the Obama COLB and the Michele COLB were printed on newer, thicker paper than the older COLBS such as the DeCosta COLB and the embossed seal being barely visible or not visible at all as in the original Michele COLB scan is not unusual at all."

That may be true of the Michelle COLB. But look at photo #1 at FactCheck. That seal shows up distinctly on the front side. It's heavily embossed and very detailed. If KOS and the first FactCheck image was a scan of this same paper document, shouldn't that seal have been clearly visible?

I also think the folds would have shown up better in a scan. The heavier paper is cracked at the top fold, yet on the scan it's barely visible.

I don't think the scan that has been online since June was a scan of this document at all.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

[Polarik]

LET'S HAVE A LITTLE EDGE DETECTION RALLYE:

Tomoyasu COLB image:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/Jason-Tomo-BC-sobel-edge.jpg

TWO CLEAR FOLDS. CLEAR SEAL STAMP

PD's COLB image:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/doc_decosta_pat_birth-sobel-edge.jpg

TWO CLEAR FOLDS. CLEAR SEAL STAMP

Smith's COLB image:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/4hchew-Sobel-edge.jpg

TWO CLEAR FOLDS. CLEAR SEAL STAMP

Dan's 2007 COLB image:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/File0015-cropped-Sobel.jpg

TWO CLEAR FOLDS. CLEAR SEAL STAMP

FactCheck COLB photo:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/birth_certificate_2-sobel-sm.jpg

TWO CLEAR FOLDS. CLEAR SEAL STAMP

FactCheck/Kos COLB image:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/BO_Birth_Certificate-Sobel-Edge.jpg

ONE CLEAR FOLD. NO SECOND FOLD. MUDDLED SEAL STAMP

OK, what have we learned here?

That the FactCheck COLB photo has two folds and a clear stamp just like all of the above.

That the FactCheck/kOS COLB image has only one fold, with no second fold in sight. Not even SEEN by image enhancement.

Yes, I can see that the FactCheck photo and image have vestiges of the signature stamp right under the date stamp and seal.

Only problem is that all 2007 COLBs had the signature stamp set off to the left -- and not in the middle like 2008 COLBs.

What? You thought their placement was random??

[jmc813]

Wait, what the hell does Michelle Obama have to do with this? She wasn’t born in Hawaii. This whole thing is f#%&ing retarded.