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To: m4629
Now my question is, did Ann play it safe and conscientious by registering baby Obama’s birth at a US Consulate somewhere to guarantee his citizenship or did she tried to pull a fast one by rushing back to Hawaii and registered him as home grown?

At this point, no one seems to know.

I believe/know a very few things:

The CoLB that his campaign released is a forgery.

Someone risked jail time to forge this document.

It takes all of half an hour on the 'net, and about $25-$40 to have a legitimate certified copy of your own BC delivered within a week. (I know this because I just did that very thing last month)

Therefore, I conclude that there must be some compelling reason to falsify his BC.

The compelling reason that comes to mind is that the real document would kick him out of the running for being the most powerful man on earth.

From this I conclude that his true documentation shows one or more of the following truths:

• He was not born in the United States, and is therefore constitutionally unqualified for the job. This is a show stopper. There is no way to "fix" this or inoculate himself against this, or win over voters on this issue. It is the premier campaign killer issue.

Therefore, I regard this as the most probable explanation for the deceit.

All the other possible reasons are much lower grade:

• His BC shows that he's a bastard. Although this might be personally embarrassing, nobody cares, a goodly fraction of the electorate is in the same boat, or closely related to someone who is.
• His birth name isn't Barak Hussein Obama. So what? We already know his his name changed when he was adopted in Indonesia. People can and do change their names, it isn't a crime, or even particularly shady.
The only question it really raises is why did he chose a muslim name? That's rather easy to explain away - he took his genetic father's name. Who can argue with that? Especially when muslim names had some popularity among blacks who didn't know just how deeply involved muslims were in the slave trade.
• His real birth certificate lists his race as something other than "African". This would be more of a problem. His whole campaign is founded on his being "the first black president" come January. Still not lethal to the campaign, but it would be awkward to 'splain away.

• There is something else embarrassing on his official BC.

Like what?
There could be nothing conceivably embarrassing about:

His time of birth
His birthday
His city of birth
His county of birth
His island of birth
His religion (It's not even listed)
His mother's race
The date it was filed

A few things could be a slightly embarrassing:

The serial number? Maybe? Suppose it's really 151-1961-000666?

His father's name wasn't listed. Not terribly unlikely if he and Stanley Ann split up before he was born. No one cares.

His mother's maiden name. Suppose she really did use her Anna Toot drinkin' ID to get married? Would that really suffice as a reason for someone to risk jail time by falsifying his documents? More to the point, would it disqualify Barak? I don't think so. If anything it could be played for the sympathy vote, young naïve Stanley Ann trying to do her best in covering up the mistakes of her youth. Mother's maiden name listed as Anna Toot? Yawn.

That leaves the big enchilada:
His birth name. Was it really the noble and exotic Barak Hussein Obama II?

Or was it Mortimer Snerdly Toot, hmmmm?

Live that one down!

274 posted on 07/25/2008 11:04:42 AM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: null and void

Thanks for your take.

Now onto the other scenario. Suppose Obama was born in Hawaii, in a hospital. Then it shouldn’t be hard to track down certain records right? Like billing records for doctors fees, admission record, nursing attendant record.

Surely chances are some of the nurses that worked that 7:24 pm shift may well be alive today to reveal what type of paperwork was required to fill out by hand and stored somewhere.

Indeed, someone who goes through this much trouble to conceal basic info has a lot to hide, which is more of a reason we need to dig deeper.

On a side note, I’m pretty sure by now the Homeland Security and Secret Service are quite aware of Obama’s background but they won’t do anything since they are only concerned with security and not eligibility. Then again, some of the best leaks do come from insiders sometimes.

Hmmmm, Watergate, Irangate, Birth CertifiGATE.


278 posted on 07/25/2008 12:27:02 PM PDT by m4629
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To: null and void
It takes all of half an hour on the 'net, and about $25-$40 to have a legitimate certified copy of your own BC delivered within a week. (I know this because I just did that very thing last month)

It only costs $10 to get a genuine Hawaii COLB.

338 posted on 07/26/2008 8:55:23 AM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: null and void
• His BC shows that he's a bastard. Although this might be personally embarrassing, nobody cares, a goodly fraction of the electorate is in the same boat, or closely related to someone who is.

If he's a bastard, then his mother fails to fulfill the citizenship requirements that were in effect at the time of his birth.

If his mom was not a citizen, then neither is he.

340 posted on 07/26/2008 8:58:51 AM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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