[Polarik]

Have we ever seen an original birth certificate for Barack Jr.?

Have we ever seen an original birth certificate for either Barack Sr. or Ann Dunham?

Have we ever seen an original passport for either Barack Sr. or Ann Dunham?

Have we ever seen an original marriage certificate for Barack Sr. and Ann Dunham?

If there is only one thing that you should have learned by now and that Obama has the most elusive, secretive, and unknown background of anyone I have ever heard or read about.

What concrete proof do we really have when and where his parents were born, or even who are his real parents? We cannot say, for certain, when his mother died, if at all, and when his grandmother died, if at all, and from what real causes?

I would caution you to make NO assumptions or presumptions about the FACTS of Obama's life because we have so few of them to even paint a family portrait.

The reason why BO is fighting the BC issue, tooth and nail, is becuase the FACTS on it would destroy his entire mythology. Without that mythology, he is less than ZERO.

[browardchad]

What concrete proof do we really have when and where his parents were born, or even who are his real parents? We cannot say, for certain, when his mother died, if at all, and when his grandmother died, if at all, and from what real causes?

You know, if you carry that argument to its logical conclusion, you really can’t prove the true identity of anyone – besides yourself – but then, using your logic, no one would be able to believe who you are either.

Here’s an experiment: think of someone roughly your age who you know, really well. Someone unrelated to you. A childhood friend or classmate whose date and place of birth in the U.S. you know and whose parents names you know. Now try to get the original copies of their vital records. You may be able to get a divorce record, maybe a marriage record, or find their birth listed on a public index, but you’re not going to get the original birth or death record, using legal means. If this person has died, you’ll probably find them on the Social Security Death Index, but that’s the same database in which you’ll find the Dunhams deaths recorded (mother, father and daughter) – and since you don’t believe that’s trustworthy, then it follows that you can’t trust it for your friend either.

So then, having failed to get those records, and not trusting those records that are publicly available, does that prove that your friend never existed, or that he/she isn’t or wasn’t who they claimed to be?