[Calpernia]

I disagree. I don’t find the Frank Davis stuff off topic at all. Matter of fact, it lends a Lebensborn type of flavor.

I was respectfully declining the philosophy of Ally vs. Infiltration insight into communism for this thread. There are a number of Cleon Skousen and Joseph Borkin threads here at FR that would be more appropriate.

[bvw]

Well, I hadn't picked up on that "happy family" aspect of it. Hawaii is more west than California, after all -- so like CA has them maybe crazy covens are a Hawaiian growth too. Upstate NY and the Berkshires used to be the place for such social developments in the mid 1800's -- the Oneida Commune was famous. Out of it came the assassin of Garfield. Such things seem to have moved west in the last century plus.

Still, I've been reading the Davis stuff as off topic and had no idea that was the theme you see in it.