Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
The group photo was taken somewhere between 1959 and 1962. 1962 was 46 years ago, so in order for the woman in the picture to be 55 today, she would have had to be nine years old in the photo.
Am I missing something?
You said:
>>>The woman in the picture looks to be in her 20’s or 30’s, so would have to be in her late 60’s or 70’s today. Okubo looks to be in her 40’s or 50’s, judging by this closeup of that picture you posted. <<<
If she is around 55, that would fit into your stated timeline.
Through my various surfing on other websites I had found that picture only once and it was labelled as a party held for Senior after graduating from the University of Hawaii before his departure for Harvard. At that time Stanley Ann was either still in Washington or on her way back to Hawaii. The date for the picture is labelled as 1962 when Senior graduated NOT 1963 as some have reported!
thanks for that, I picked up your image without detail as to who-when-what...I have no doubts that it includes Stanly Dunham.
just thinking out aloud here...if the divorce was not finalized before Soetoro died, obama's mother would have been his widow, probably entitled to his estate. Might explain why she remained in Indonesia, wrote a book...didn't have to support herself, and had enough funds to travel to Pakistan.
http://onemansthoughts.wordpress.com/2008/05/24/stanley-ann-dunham-obama-soetoro/
“Baracks half-sister, Maya Soetoro was born in Indonesia. Ann, Barack and his sister Maya moved back to Hawaii. Ann Dunham soon returned to Indonesia with Maya but divorced Soetoro in the late 1970s.
Dunham traveled around the world, pursuing a career in rural development that took her to Ghana, India, Thailand, Indonesia, Nepal and Bangladesh. In 1986, Ann Dunham worked on a developmental project in Pakistan. Later that year, Ann and her daughter traveled the Silk Road in China. In 1992, she earned a Ph.D. in anthropology from the University of Hawaii. Her dissertation, Peasant blacksmithing in Indonesia: Surviving and Thriving Against All Odds, was 1067 pages long. She worked for the Ford Foundation and promoted Microlending...”
From http://www.hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?/archives/210-Bad-Science-How-Not-To-Do-Image-Analysis.html#comments
#19.1.1.1 Dr. Neal Krawetz (Homepage) on 2008-08-06 08:10 (Reply)Presidential candidates are vetted by "appropriate oversight committees". The [omitted] portion we can only guess at, but it would be likely to have involved calling his imagined opponents names and slurs such as "rascist".Hi Don Winkie,
Two responses come to mind.
1. My analysis is not questioning the authentication of the COLB. My analysis is answering the question "has it been modified". (There is a difference between "real" and "authentic".) To this regard, there is no evidence of modification. Moreover, I believe I have debunked a fictional analysis that claims to have shown modification.
2. As far as the political aspect goes, yes and no... Yes: someone must and will (and probably has) validated his eligibility. No: that someone does not need to be you. While we should trust that someone in our government will do the right thing, there are levels upon levels of oversight committees designed to make sure they do the right thing. If you wish to be on the list of presidential eligibility reviewers, then I suggest joining one of the appropriate oversight committees.
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[Moderator: Sorry Neal. Please take the political debate to some other forum. The focus here is on image analysis. -Loris Kim]
Just to follow on to the last post. Neither Doctor Krawetz nor AJStrata have done any significant image analysis on the CoLB image. Both have used a number of unchecked presumptions to carry the logical bulk of their argument, still the bulk of their arguments remains emotional appeals of various sorts.
There’s a VERY interesting little item in this article that appeared today here:
“Holds both American and Kenyan (since 1963) citizenship.”
I think this should be followed up as to how they know this.
Something driving me nuts right now is I KNOW I have seen references that Lolo remarried and had additional children after the split with Stanley Ann.
I suppose since the divorce from Stanley Ann is filed in Hawaii he could have remarried in Indonesia and none would be the wiser.
I’ve been trying to find that reference again but no luck so far. I will keep trying though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Justmeherenow/Sandbox/Dunham-Soetoro_families
A few years later, Dunham met an Indonesian student, Lolo Soetoro (ca. 1936-1987), at the East-West Center on the University of Hawaii campus.[9] They married in 1967 and moved to Jakarta, Indonesia after the unrest surrounding the ascent of Suharto,[2] where he went to work as a government relations consultant with Mobil Corporation, the U.S.-based international petroleum company.[10][11]
Soetoro and Dunham had a daughter, Maya Kassandra Soetoro, on August 15, 1970.[7]
Ann Dunham left Soetoro in 1972
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolo_Soetoro
Lolo Soetoro died in January, 1987. (Before the divorce was final?)
Anti-Obama Bloggers Say They Were Silenced
NY Sun ^ | August 5, 2008 | ANNA PHILLIPS
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2056790/posts
This article is linked to on Drudge. The controversy surrounding Obamas forged birth certificate just hit prime time.
3 posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 11:49:46 PM by counterpunch
That link to Drudge seems to have been a little misleading, here’s the link to the NY Sun article:
http://www.nysun.com/national/anti-obama-bloggers-say-they-were-silenced/83179/
“...On Thursday, hours after publishing a post about an online petition demanding that Mr. Obama publicly produce his birth certificate, an associate professor of business administration at Brooklyn College, Mitchell Langbert, found that he could no longer access his Web log...”
Thanks! It’s like watching a small wee crack in a dam. You know it’s not getting smaller.
Well, death is final. :P
If he was born 1961, why would he only hold citizenship at 1963? If he was born there, he would be a citizen upon birth. ‘If’ he was born in Hawaii/Canada/Seattle and Kenya just ‘registered’ the birth, then that would still be for 1961, right?
...an associate professor of business administration at Brooklyn College, Mitchell Langbert...
maybe he's a FReeper?
Jomo Kenyatta led Kenya to independence in December 1963.
IIRC before that, it was Rhodesia.
Obama Snr worked for the Kenyetta Government. Useful comment or not, I don't know...
Great.
Now it looks like pretty soon I’m may to have to decide whether to pop the cork on the champagne I’ve kept chilling for Fidel’s demise early in celebration of Obama’s...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2057241/replies?c=41
Interesting, link to pdf ‘Dreams from my Father’ -
Lolo, mother and new sister farewell obama as he leaves for Hawaii. Mother tells him she will try to make it to Hawaii for Christmas, and
And you won’t have to wake up at four in the morning,
(That’s the first muslim prayer time! And Lolo wasn’t a practicing muslim, hey?)
Well, she must have ‘made it to Hawaii’ for Christmas, because we have the airport photographs...
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