Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
From Freeper Spunky
“There’s no doubt his mother was a citizen, so does it even matter where he was born?”
Yes it does matter. There were/are laws governing this. It depends on which year you were born.
Obama was born in 1961 and the below was the law covering that year.
4. December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986
If, at the time of your birth, both your parents were U.S. citizens and at least one had a prior residence in the United States, you automatically acquired U.S. citizenship with no conditions for retaining it.
If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16. There are no conditions placed on retaining this type of citizenship. If your one U.S. citizen parent is your father and you were born outside of marriage, the same rules apply if your father legally legitimated you before your 21st birthday and you were unmarried at the time. If legitimation occurred after November 14, 1986, your father must have established paternity prior to your 18th birthday, either by acknowledgment or by court order, and must have stated in writing that he would support you financially until your 18th birthday.
If by chance Barack Obama’s mother gave birth to him in Kenya she did not meet the 5 year residency in the U.S. after the age of 16 because she was 18 when she gave birth.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2039352/posts
post 124 has a link to the citizenship laws
Soros probably should have just bribed some Hawaii officials to get a real deal birth certificate for his boy, Oblahma
It is hard for me to phantom why there are so many posters who don’t see what is so obvious...forgery and fraud. I only thing that would sense to me is they don’t want to see the clinton trash back in the White House and I would be able sympathize with that but this whole controversy is about something more important than a forged document.
It is about the first time in the history of this country, it is possible for a candidate could be elected president from an UNKNOWN ORIGIN.
The Constitution is in danger.
Yes--it is the place of his birth he doesn't want you to see--because he was born in Kenya, not Hawaii.
And the birth records issue may be more complicated than that. There may be a record; but it discloses facts that make it clear he wasn't born in Hawaii.
Sure, there's been talk, but your understanding of the law is incorrect. You have to be a "natural born citizen" which can either be accomplished by place of birth or by the citizenship of your parents.
The place of your birth is not determinative if it's outside the US.
These threads will get interesting when they actually start to allege that Obama WASN'T born in Hawaii and offer proof of where he was born.
But it still wouldn't matter because he's a natural born citizen because of his mother.
The fake birth certificate at KOS is interesting, but it's not really even relevant.
It is curious. He obviously never went to court, yet he’s a “constitutional professor”. Hmmmm....
You can see Barack Obama’s birth certificate for yourself and help push back with the truth at:
http://my.barackobama.com/fightthesmears
LOL yep, that’s the real fake alright.
Pissants all.
Do you think, if it happened that Hillary got the nomination, the enough people would be turned off to the Dems that McCain would still win?
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And then, after the storm has been whipped up, he can pull out the real one ("'scuze me while I whip this out!" just went through my head!) and say, "These people are nuts! I'm so persecuted!"
Kudos Jim and Texas Darling—
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider’s revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the diligent detective work of independent investigative journalists (led by JimJ and Texas Darling) and imaging professionals such as Polarik in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate The Daily Kos, a “progressive” blog site, and the Obama campaign’s “Fight the Smears” website, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of highly doubtful provenance. Moreover, the blog and the campaign have been negligent in allowing the promotion of obviously forged and fake official documents together with the purported image of Obama’s birth certificate.
Well now wait a second. It seems I read somewhere that he “practiced” law.
Maybe not.. but your find is an EXCELLENT catch.
I’ll dig into that after the 4th.
Most likely it wasn't because he's a bastard. A goodly fraction of the electorate has never met the guy who knocked up their mom. Mostly no one else cares either. We do care what kind of bastard a guy is, but not so much the marital status of his parents.
That makes the most likely explanation that his real Certificate of Live Birth would unquestionably show he cannot hold the office of president.
So I don't know why they did this dumb and ham handed thing.
The same reason those guys put g-strings on their heads to rob that store last week. They figured that with just a little cover they could get away with it.
As far as ham handed? I'm pretty sure that using the left's best available DHS trained forger didn't look ham handed going in...
He never divorced his first wife. That is legally true.
No, the VP must be qualified to assume the Presidency. That’s why the Toon cannot be Hillary’s Veep.
I read it the same way. Like the Sinclair story, people are trying to keep this one alive with regular "new" releases with no actual "new" information.
FRAUD
For submitting the fraudulent BC in the first place. BTW, he only submitted the fake after intense speculation that he was not native-born starting more than a month ago. What most of us are shocked at is that he gave us ammo releasing that fake BC!
Federal offense For NoBombo also since he says it’s the real deal?
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