Lormand and Ron Paul's nemesis, Phil Graham
I knew there would be yet another reason to like Phil Graham.
Posted on 07/01/2008 2:19:51 PM PDT by mnehring
According to Ron Paul Henchman and alleged erstwhile ghostwriter Lew Rockwell (broke link, Lew Rockwell not welcome on Free Republic), you can blame Dicky Flatt’s buddy, Phil Gramm: …I was involved in that campaign, when Reagan broke his moronic “11th Commandment” to speak ill of fellow Republican Ron Paul, and such figures as Karl Rove and Paul Weyrich conspired to wage a very nasty campaign against Ron. In true Republican dirty-tricks fashion, Ron’s campaign office was even burglarized and his mailing list and other documents stolen. The power-elite had annointed (sic) the Philster, and would brook no grassroots opposition. Ron, of course, ran a hard and heroic campaign, complete with brilliant antiwar ads.
Wow! Bush’s Brain was controlling the party way back then? It also seems a bit ironic for Rockwell to call Reagan’s 11th Commandment “moronic” then whine about him breaking it. Then Llewellyn all but states it was Rove and Weyrich that broke into Paul’s campaign office, a pretty bold claim. And what war was Paul running anti-war ads against in 1984?
The Rockster was responding to comments made by Spencer J. Hahn on why he can never forgive Gramm for stealing Ron Paul’s chance of serving in the Senate alongside Barry Goldwater: Let us not forget that it was that Democrat turncoat, Phil Gramm, who defeated Ron Paul in the 1984 Republican Senate primary. Had Ron Paul won the primary, he would have won the general election, and become the true conscience of the Senate. I often wonder what would have been if Ron Paul had been in the Senate to filibuster every unconstitutional bill. He almost certainly would have been a presidential candidate (as Gramm was in 1996), and likely would have been taken more seriously by the MSM.
So there you have it, folks. The reason no one takes Ron Paul seriously is because Phil Gramm beat him in the primary in 1984. Oh, and Halliburton.
I thought Libertarians were all about personal responsibility?
Lormand and Ron Paul's nemesis, Phil Graham
I knew there would be yet another reason to like Phil Graham.
Funny, in Iraq, Paul didn't consider an 'authorization of the use of force' a legitimate declaration of war, however, he did consider it a legitimate declaration of war when he voted yes for almost the exact same wording when dealing with Afghanistan.
I dunno... Cuz he’s a moonbat?
Perhaps I should clarify. As I said in my initial post, I keep reading about how insignificant Paul is. But at the same time a lot of time is spent talking about someone who is supposedly insignificant. So if he is insignificant then why talk about him, or is it that there is a part of the GOP that is concerned for where his supporters may go in this and in future elections.,
Only in the most elementary school educated sense. For Pre-Wilsonian 'conservatives', even Reagan and Goldwater where neocons. Paul himself said that 'Reagan made Jimmy Carter look conservative'. As for the Libertarians, (party, not lower case 'l' principle), even Ayn Rand scolded them when she called them 'hippies of the right', so I guess the latter would fit if the Libertarians wanted Paul back (but after the embezzlement scandal of 1988, I doubt they do.)
did he run in the last election? Cuz...you kinda gotta run to become prez, dontchaknow?
Because it draws out some nuts who have the craziest arguments and theories about everything. We need a good laugh once a week or so.
Anyone who has a microphone in Congress that frequents 911 truther talk shows is not insignificant, but a danger to this Republic.
Because 1.2 million votes wasn’t enough.
I do remember the Bushs in Texas, along with Gingrich and the republican establishment in Washington, being so afraid of Ron Paul getting back in congress in 1996 that they recruited Greg Laughlin to switch from the democratic to the republican party. Paul defeated Laughlin in the run-off republican primary election in 1996 and went on to defeat democrat Charles “Lefty” Morris in November.
Libertarianism is just a hairs difference from Anarchy.
Neither did supposed "front-runner" Rudy Giuliani. Or Fred Thompson.
I didn't vote for Paul, but like someone here already said, issue-for-issue I'd take Paul over McCain and Obama.
Well everyone I knew that was for Ron Paul was not into conspiracy theories and such. Granted that was only a few people and I know I get a lot of crap for trying to defend “Dr. No”, but I see his policies and actions as uncompromisingly in support of Constitutionalism whereas too many republicans say they want limited government and haven’t delievered.
We’ve had a republican president for the past 8 year and at one point republican control of everything. On the border issue, all we have to show for is an under funded fence. Medicare part D was passed. Entitlement spending grew. Education expenditures were up over 100%. We should have hit Afghanistan with EVERYTHING we had if it was true at the time that Osama was there. And now we’re bogged down in nation building, something Bush ran against in 2000. All I’m trying to say is that too many Republicans throw us a few scraps of the Constitution, some lip service, and then they act as bad as the dems.
I’m not saying that Ron Paul is the second coming of Christ in his chariot ready to slay the infidels (that’s what Obama supporters think). I’m just saying he got a lot of people involved in politics and Constitutionalism (myself and a good number of friends included).
And for the record I haven’t met any of his conspiracy theorist followers, so I can only speak for those followers I have met and talked with.
So the Barr is the Libertarian Giuliani.
Great selection, LP.
Thanks, socal
You know what is interesting, every Conspiracy Theorist claims they aren't one, even the Father of the 9/11 Truth movement and Paul's good friend Alex Jones claims not to be one. Same with Paul's old pal Lewellian Rockwell.
I see that you are new here, so you are not aware of the vast discussions here chronicling the kooks and kook positions that Ron Paul has associated himself with.
Search for Ron Paul, or keyword "stenchhippie" and you will see much of the discussion here.
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