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Why is Ron Paul not President?
Lone Star Times ^

Posted on 07/01/2008 2:19:51 PM PDT by mnehring

According to Ron Paul Henchman and alleged erstwhile ghostwriter Lew Rockwell (broke link, Lew Rockwell not welcome on Free Republic), you can blame Dicky Flatt’s buddy, Phil Gramm:

…I was involved in that campaign, when Reagan broke his moronic “11th Commandment” to speak ill of fellow Republican Ron Paul, and such figures as Karl Rove and Paul Weyrich conspired to wage a very nasty campaign against Ron. In true Republican dirty-tricks fashion, Ron’s campaign office was even burglarized and his mailing list and other documents stolen. The power-elite had annointed (sic) the Philster, and would brook no grassroots opposition. Ron, of course, ran a hard and heroic campaign, complete with brilliant antiwar ads.

Wow! Bush’s Brain was controlling the party way back then? It also seems a bit ironic for Rockwell to call Reagan’s 11th Commandment “moronic” then whine about him breaking it. Then Llewellyn all but states it was Rove and Weyrich that broke into Paul’s campaign office, a pretty bold claim. And what war was Paul running anti-war ads against in 1984?

The Rockster was responding to comments made by Spencer J. Hahn on why he can never forgive Gramm for stealing Ron Paul’s chance of serving in the Senate alongside Barry Goldwater:

Let us not forget that it was that Democrat turncoat, Phil Gramm, who defeated Ron Paul in the 1984 Republican Senate primary. Had Ron Paul won the primary, he would have won the general election, and become the true conscience of the Senate. I often wonder what would have been if Ron Paul had been in the Senate to filibuster every unconstitutional bill. He almost certainly would have been a presidential candidate (as Gramm was in 1996), and likely would have been taken more seriously by the MSM.

So there you have it, folks. The reason no one takes Ron Paul seriously is because Phil Gramm beat him in the primary in 1984. Oh, and Halliburton.

I thought Libertarians were all about personal responsibility?


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To: xzins
So you are diametrically opposed to the LP's stance? The corollary would be then that you must agree that Roe V Wade should stand, that the Fedgov should continue to fund abortion mills, and that the Fedgov should continue to send our Tax dollars to Planned Parenthood?

If your "pro-life", then I'm a garden gnome.

161 posted on 07/03/2008 8:39:58 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: xzins
I’m still awaiting McCain’s VP selection.

I'm actually in the same boat. If it's Jindal or Sanford, I'm holding the ol' nose, drinking a lot of John Daniels, and then voting for McCain. If not, I'm holding the ol' nose, drinking a lot of John Daniels and voting for Barr.

162 posted on 07/03/2008 8:52:45 AM PDT by jmc813 (RIP SheLion - One of the all-time FR greats)
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To: BlackElk

Yes, how said. ;^)


163 posted on 07/03/2008 9:13:16 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: jmc813

It is seemingly beyond people like you to understand how you can support ‘A’, because you don’t want ‘B’. Me saying something like “If it comes down to Hitlery vs Giuliani, I going Giulliani 150%” does not make me a “Giuliani fan”.


164 posted on 07/03/2008 9:45:33 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited
For someone who is "not a fan of Giuliani", you sure spent a hell of a lot of time defending the dope.
165 posted on 07/03/2008 9:57:48 AM PDT by jmc813 (RIP SheLion - One of the all-time FR greats)
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To: jmc813

You are clueless here. Before McCain was the nominee, I called him McInsane for years here. But now since the choice is him or The Marxist, you’ll find me defending McCain also. As I said, this concept/strategy is way, way over your head.


166 posted on 07/03/2008 10:41:47 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Allegra

Aren’t they cute when they are enraged?


167 posted on 07/03/2008 10:57:54 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: jmc813

“paleo” 350 times yet. Ah, hell “paleo 350,000 times!


168 posted on 07/03/2008 11:02:14 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Dead Corpse; xzins
Dead Corpse: Since Ayn Rand hysterically and with much emotional flapdoodle supported Gerald Ford over Ronald Reagan in 1976 in her newsletter specifically because Reagan's election was viewed by la Rand as a threat to the supposed abortion “right,” I suspect that she would excommunicate dissenters opposing abortion from the ranks of objectivists as she excommunicated Murray Rothbard for marrying a “believer” and probably Barbara Branden for being married to la Rand's adulterous paramour Nathaniel Branden. Rand did not approve the initiation of force as a general proposition but she certainly approved abortion. Serial adultery in her day called for steadfast support of abortion even if she was far beyond the point of fertility.
169 posted on 07/03/2008 11:17:24 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: jmc813
After thirty-five years and 50+ million innicents slaughtered, the best Paul can do is kick it back to the states???? I am all for overturning Roe vs. Wade and then applying the 14th Amendment to the unborn by defining them as personas and protecting them accordingly. PaleoPaulie is a gutless, irresponsible wimp and he would do no more to put Killer Tiller out of business than he would to put other enemies of our country like Al Qaeda out of business. PaleoPaulie is a delusional do nothing posing for holy pictures and taking the good name of the pro-life movement in vain. Note how thoroughly and easily resistant most pro-lifers (and other conservatives) are to paleowhateverism and to the federal earmarking Galveston shrimp bidness subsidizer who is Al Qaeda's mouthpiece in America. He is a fake, a phony and a fraud. So is what passes for his ideology.

PaleoPaulie shirks any rezponsibility for stopping the slaughter and you think that is El Run Paulie standing up for the unborn. No more excuses. No more delays. End abortion now.

170 posted on 07/03/2008 11:25:58 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk

Coming from you, this means nothing.


171 posted on 07/03/2008 11:37:06 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: BlackElk

I take it you didn’t like Fred Thompson?


172 posted on 07/03/2008 11:42:49 AM PDT by jmc813 (RIP SheLion - One of the all-time FR greats)
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To: Dead Corpse

That post made no sense.


173 posted on 07/03/2008 12:08:30 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: jmc813

Jindal would be good, but I’m thinking that the Dems in La are trying to set him up to look bad.


174 posted on 07/03/2008 12:25:48 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: xzins
Jindal would be good, but I’m thinking that the Dems in La are trying to set him up to look bad.

They absolutely are, but it won't work. Bobby is a genuinely good man. A good friend of mine was an aide of his in Congress and she assured me that he is the real deal. She also has been open about how other people she's worked for were really jerks despite good public perception, so I believe her when it comes to Jindal.

175 posted on 07/03/2008 12:35:39 PM PDT by jmc813 (RIP SheLion - One of the all-time FR greats)
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To: jmc813

He is definitely near the top of my list.

I like Steele, Blackwell, Hunter, Kasich, Cheney (again :>), Pence, Santorum, Palin,


176 posted on 07/03/2008 12:48:08 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: BlackElk

Despite his faults I am pleased to see Paul bringing up issues that mainstream Republicans have long forgotten about. I’ll take a Ron Paul, Bob Barr or Chuck Baldwin anyday over the same old, big government Republicans the GOP has been serving us for the past 20 years.


177 posted on 07/03/2008 1:32:16 PM PDT by PastorTony
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To: xzins
To you? Probably not. If you are 180 degrees against the LP's stated positions, then you must agree with the current status of things as I stated.

To whit: With Roe V Wade being an extra-Constitutional judicial legislative act, with Planned Parenthood receiving Federal dollars, and with the medical industry getting Federal "ok" for procedures like prophylactic abortion.

All of which would go away under Libertarian policies despite the lying bloviation expressed by the Libertarian haters on this thread.

As President Bush stated, "Yer' either with us, or yer' against us".

178 posted on 07/03/2008 2:54:01 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse
To whit: With Roe V Wade being an extra-Constitutional judicial legislative act, with Planned Parenthood receiving Federal dollars, and with the medical industry getting Federal "ok" for procedures like prophylactic abortion

A pro-choice plank will not make the above go away.

179 posted on 07/03/2008 4:41:31 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: Dead Corpse

“And your constant misrepresentation of the LP Party plank is pathetic.”

Normally I agree with what you post, but in a 2004 third party presidential forum, Badnarik told a college audience that although there is strong disagreement within the party, the LP is pro-choice. I’d be happy to learn that their position has changed.


180 posted on 07/03/2008 5:42:33 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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