Posted on 04/29/2008 10:20:32 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
Are you telling me that someone who claims all of the eduction you claim can't come up with something less 'in-your-face' than this: "Your medical professional (i.e. a nurse) who is a degreed geneticist (what pray tell is her degree? And what is her degree in?) is nothing better than an ILL educated layman." Particularly when the party you are putting down is not present to defend herself against your definitely un-scientific assumption ("and is obviously vague about her credentials for good reason? "), which is substantiated by nothing that I have seen on this thread.
Neithr is the word "dog" -- but, if I were you, I'd be careful who I pinned that label on, and how you worded it when you do. What the hell would you call it, the way you used it. How nice do I have to be when dismissing incorrect and nonsensical tripe?
What compels you to be so rude about it. And, why do you feel compelled to even remark on it at all, if you aren't in the mood be civil about it?
Are you telling me that someone who claims all of the eduction you claim can't come up with something less 'in-your-face' than this: "Your medical professional (i.e. a nurse) who is a degreed geneticist (what pray tell is her degree? And what is her degree in?) is nothing better than an ILL educated layman." Particularly when the party you are putting down is not present to defend herself against your definitely un-scientific assumption ("and is obviously vague about her credentials for good reason? "), which is substantiated by nothing that I have seen on this thread.
Neithr is the word "dog" -- but, if I were you, I'd be careful who I pinned that label on, and how you worded it when you do. What the hell would you call it, the way you used it. How nice do I have to be when dismissing incorrect and nonsensical tripe?
What compels you to be so rude about it. And, why do you feel compelled to even remark on it at all, if you aren't in the mood be civil about it?
You came on saying I was arrogant rude and a clod. Now you seek to lecture me on manners.
I have nothing against a layman expounding upon Science. I would have great respect for someone who said “My undergrad degree in Biology was a long time ago (or I have no formal training in Biology) but as I see it....A, B, C, and D and therefore I propose E.” IF they were essentially correct about A, B, C, and D. I might try to tell them they took a “train too far” on E if I thought so; but I would respect them for knowing the subject and conveying it accurately.
When someone says they are “a medical professional, with a background in genetic research” and then says “A, B, C and D and therefore I propose E” how polite do I have to be when I tell them that they are wrong over the entire alphabet and E is nonsensical?
The author promulgated a pack of utter nonsense in an attempt to attack a well formulated Scientific theory, she was incorrect on almost everything she said, and was trying to make herself sound more qualified than she is. I am sorry if you think it is rude to point this out; but there it is.
"Interesting to find an Aristotelianism here. However, the premise is incorrect, so the conclusion is neither correct nor incorrect. Science is built on the error of Cartesianism, the error being in not using reason to locate the limits of knowledge."
I prob'ly won't have time these days to do more than lurk, but the thought would be nice.
Cheers!
By definition, the same as the units of whatever quantity you're trying to measure.
See also "significant digits"...
(Unless you are referring to a layman's or a philosopher's definition of "uncertainty", and not an engineer's or scientist's. A lot of problems are caused by using a word as a layperson which has a specialized meaning within a particular discipline, or vice versa.)
Cheers!
They have but many have been banned or self-exiled.
No cheers, unfortunately.
I suspect that the geneticist's definition of mutation differs from that of the layperson...
Cheers!
I'll join you in the beer but not the other conclusions.
RightWhale,
Like, *PING*, dude.
Cheers!
Why did you post to yourself?
Is it the latest 'postmodernist' craze? ;-)
Cheers!
Is this the "scientist" version of the "No True Scotsman" fallacy? ;-)
Cheers!
al baby, you might have competition.
Cheers!
Leave the Vista vs. Mac flamewars out of this! ;-)
(Intelligent design is tricky to get a handle on until you know both the design parameters -- whether externally or self-imposed, *and* the stated goals and preferences of the designer. And in the case of "crevo" design, if you are including Judeo-Christian creation, you have to allow for the presence of non-corporeal saboteurs and some degree of autonomy on the part of the subjects involved. As if the biology alone weren't tanged enough.)
Cheers! Cheers!
Scary, I could detect echoes of both John Donne *and* Hillaire Belloc in that statement...
Cheers!
Man cannot achieve certain knowledge by the scientific method.
Man cannot achieve certain knowledge by divine revelation, or there wouldn't be over 4,300 world religions.
LOLOL!
Mr. Allmendream (what a revealing name choice !)
the first stage of Ms. Hewitts research masters, the proof that the aro-9 gene of N.crassa had been cloned into a lambda vector was published in Molecular and General Genetics, a peer reviewed publication.
What was your topic of research in your Masters?
What have you published?
I have news for you. Women get married, and change their names. And not all Net names are private ones. Or did you publish as Mr. Allmendream?
How many publications do you have?
How many years lecturing?
At which University?
On what topic?
And you have the gall to say she is an “ill educated layman”.
Incidentally, you are also commiting the logical fallacy of ad hominen.
One so highly educated as yourself will understand this, I’m sure.
No,grey whiskers
I’ts the result of being tired, not checking the format on a forum I rarely use (directing response to a name isn’t common).
If I thought I was in any way post-modern, I’d shoot myself.
Or dumb enough to accept a load of hogwash without ever questioning it !!! :)
And this is just what occurred to me.
If Ms. Hewitt is an ill educated layman whose opinions aren’t worth bothering with, why bother to reply at all?
It’s as I said, it’s a religious steam that gets generated. And thats a worry. Or would be, if I cared.
I appreciate reading your reasoned and calm comments. They do come as a breath of fresh air.
thankyou.
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