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To: Soliton
ID never offers positive proof . They just attack natural selection. The whole movement is a fraud.

Even Darwin explicitly stated that it was simply a theory; not a proof. Until something better came along. To say that "Evolution" as argued today has been proven scientifically, but ID has not, is to simply attempt to not derail the discussion. ID does not claim anything as proven either, nor seeks to ban the teaching of evlolution. It seeks simply to be given a voice.

On the other hand, the reverse is not true, due primarily to the Gay agenda.

15 posted on 04/18/2008 4:46:14 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Publius6961

The isn’t maths. Maths deals with proofs - not science.


19 posted on 04/18/2008 4:48:02 PM PDT by tokenatheist (Can I play with madness?)
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To: Publius6961

The same crowd that believes the global warming lie and there simply is no room for discussion is the same crowd that projects on and on about this idea of “IDers” crushing free speech.

Liberalism is clearly a disease.


98 posted on 04/18/2008 6:55:01 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing-----Edmund Burke)
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To: Publius6961; All
Even Darwin explicitly stated that it was simply a theory; not a proof.

Ouch!

Beware that the informal meaning of the word "theory" is the opposite of its scientific meaning. While the informal meaning suggests that an idea is merely guesswork, the scientific meaning indicates that an idea has indeed held up to the rigor of scientific-method experimentation.

So your note about what Darwin said about evolution can reasonably be construed to mean that evolution, particularly macroevolution, is scientifically tested fact, which it is not.

Consider the following links which show the contradictory definitions of theory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/theory
Given these contradicting definitions of theory, is it any wonder that creationism versus evolution discussions seemingly go in endless circles?
138 posted on 04/18/2008 7:40:09 PM PDT by Amendment10
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