Expelled, Important and A Highly Enjoyable Movie To Boot

From Sea to Shining Sea ^ | 4/18/08 | Purple Mountains

[tokenatheist]

No he did not. Those that told you that were out and out lying to your face.

[thulldud]

I did a cut and paste from your post

That statement was nowhere in my post.

And now, fare thee well.

[tongass kid]

Your description of PE is confusing. From the time of Darwin's book in 1859 until 1972 the evolution supporters were greatly troubled by stasis in the fossil record followed by burst of new species. This was a problem because the early concept of gradualism was in direct conflict with the fossil record. It took 103 years before someone (E&G) attempted to explain the problem in the fossil record. In 1972 they coined the now famous PE theory in a attempted to explain the problem of gradualism, stasis, and the lack of accumulation all in one theory. Naturally this theory has lead to great debate in the scientific community, some agreeing and some disagreeing. The debate may have reached it apex in 1990 with work of Dr. Charlesworth combining PE with gradualism. Because PE is an unprovable theory the debate continues in the academic community.

[processing please hold]

Don’t you think it would since evolution revolved around him?

[allmendream]

No he did not.

If Einstein had stood up from his death bed and screamed “It is E= M C CUBED!” would it make any difference to the theory? If Copernicus had renounced on his death bed would it mean that the sun circled the earth?

[webstersII]

“the very science that makes such a military possible.”

Evolution is the science that makes such a military possible?

Gee, is that evolution I was using when I was working on missile design?

Maybe your comment was poorly worded but in the form it appeared it makes no sense.

[allmendream]

Revelation must come from a prophet. If the prophet renounces the belief it is moot because the proclamation could only be judged by his worth and the weight he gave to it.

Science isn't like that.

The discoverer of Mad Cow disease was in the jungles because he liked little boys. But just because he was a sick bastard who should be taken out and shot doesn't mean that misfolded prions don't cause mad cow disease.

[processing please hold]

You don’t believe Elizabeth Hope’s story, among others? I know his son stood by the claim that Darwin was an agnostic to the end.

[tokenatheist]

Evolutionary algorithms have been used in the design of various advanced military aircraft, satellites, antenna, communication networks, in the design and function of the software that allows our aerodynamically unstable next generation fighters to fly and a host of network defense technologies.

[tokenatheist]

No.

Because evolution doesn’t speak for or against any deity at all.

[Soliton]

That statement was nowhere in my post.

It is of no help in determining what, who, or whence that entity is. If you insist on pushing that point, you are no longer talking about ID.

Take a look at post 55 and then take your meds.

[processing please hold]

I know Einstein was working on his Theory of Everything when he died.

If Copernicus had renounced on his death bed would it mean that the sun circled the earth?

Now that's just silly, good heavens. That has been proven it cannot be changed.

A mans heart and beliefs are another matter. They can always change.

[Shryke]

This thread’s title should include “VANITY” in it.

[processing please hold]

Because evolution doesn’t speak for or against any deity at all.

Did Darwin think we came from monkeys? If so, it is against a Deity.

[tpanther]

Well, academic freedom often IS all about atheist liberals running around in circles trying to squash debate.

Kind of like Michael Newdow.

Kind of like all liberalism.

[tokenatheist]

No.

Darwin, and the evidence, shows that human and other great apes share a common ancestor.

[tpanther]

That may be true some, or much of the time.

But the clear evidence, as in the movie suggests, is the opposite is true.

[tpanther]

The same crowd that believes the global warming lie and there simply is no room for discussion is the same crowd that projects on and on about this idea of “IDers” crushing free speech.

Liberalism is clearly a disease.

[Soliton]

I’m sorry, but I don’t know what you are referring to.

[tpanther]

“...or shut up...”

yup, exactly what the movie is all about!