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Are Ron Paul Supporters Real?
Blogger News Network ^ | November 7, 2007

Posted on 11/07/2007 5:54:10 AM PST by theothercheek

Second-tier presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) pulled off a first-rate fundraising coup, netting $4.3 million in online contributions from 38,000 donors in a single day, bringing his total haul to $7.3 million in 4Q 2007. No other Republican comes close to Paul’s 24-hour feat, but Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) has him beat at $6.2 million.

Paul supporters flashed their cash in honor of Guy Fawkes Day, which commemorates the would-be assassin of England’s King James I on Nov. 5, 1605. Guy Fawkes was also the inspiration the novel-turned-movie "V for Vendetta," in which the lead character takes on a fascist government in England. In several GOP presidential debates, the libertarian Paul has all-but called George W. Bush a fascist – taking issue with the Administration’s policies on domestic spying, for instance.

So does this mean Paul has a shot at the nomination? In a word: Nah. The Stiletto agrees with WaPo political blogger Chris Cillizza’s: take:

Paul was widely seen as a political gadlfy when he entered the race, but through skill, luck or a little of both he has built himself into an Internet phenomenon. …

It's not yet clear that Paul's online national community can deliver actual votes for him. … While Paul is at the center of a national movement, it won't help him in Iowa or New Hampshire if thousands of people from California or Illinois are backing him. …

There has always been a pot of money that exists for unconventional candidates who believe the system is fundamentally broken and are only tangentially affiliated with a party. …

[H]is money and his message make him a actor in New Hampshire ... he remains a decided longshot ... the excitement and attention he is drawing would seem to be a perfect lead up to a third party candidacy if and when he loses the Republican nomination.

The Houston Chronicle reports that Jonathan Bydlak, the Paul campaign’s fundraising director posted a message on the candidate's Web site that the ka-ching means just one thing: “Ron Paul is for real." Maybe. But it appears his supporters are real (second item).

Note: The Stiletto writes about politics and other stuff at The Stiletto Blog.


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To: Dreddnafious

Okey dokey...

I don’t get the whole a “as before” bit since when you orginallly posted to me it was in response to a post between me and someone else.(GWB and his small minded bit).

Everytime I ahve posted to you, it was too you.

So exactly where am I off here...


301 posted on 11/08/2007 11:30:49 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: Dreddnafious

Ok...


302 posted on 11/08/2007 11:31:28 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: ejonesie22

Im not trying to provoke you man, im trying to engage you. :)

I’m not claiming that ever Paul supporter has it right, or that even Paul has it right, i’m trying to lay out my argument for why i think Paul has it most right.


303 posted on 11/08/2007 11:39:02 AM PST by Dreddnafious
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To: Dreddnafious

the as before part was, referring to your ad hominem to someone else when i intially responded to you.

You’re a smart dude, calling someone crazy or stupid isn’t the best you can do.


304 posted on 11/08/2007 11:40:34 AM PST by Dreddnafious
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To: Dreddnafious
Well I have no real issues with about 90% of Paul’s stances, but there are others that represent those as well. But when it comes to defending this Country at this time and place he is dead wrong, and that is one type of wrong I wish to avoid.

he’s attractiveness to the Moveon/DU crowd should be a clue for any American serious about the WOT.

That’s my bottom line, the same as the one on the opening pages of this very forum...

305 posted on 11/08/2007 11:55:24 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: Dreddnafious

I don’t recall anyone crazy or stupid, indeed I was the one called “small minded” and such, so I really don’t get your point.

If it is the whole Paulinati bit, well i stand by that. Seems Team Paul around here has a real bad habit of trying to talk down to us mortals while they fling open the 8th grade civics book and spout off terms and such...


306 posted on 11/08/2007 11:58:34 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: Dreddnafious

First, no matter how hard you attempt to twist in the wind, I refuse to allow you to incorrectly state my opinion.

I am not judging Paul on only one issue. There are issues I agree with him and those I disagree. It isn’t reserved to national security.

What is particularly irritating is that you insult me by saying my conservatism isn’t authentic. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Contrary to the rhetoric you Paulbearers spout, HE IS NOT THE ONLY CONSERVATIVE IN THE RACE.

Would he be better than any democrat, well, of course. That’s not really the issue.

I found it fascinating that Guy Fawkes day was chosen as the date for your fundraiser. Why choose a British Terrorist’s Day? I find that very telling, whether it was tongue in cheek or not.


307 posted on 11/08/2007 12:16:06 PM PST by Vanbasten
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To: highlander_UW
The reason to not support Ron Paul is that he's insane.

It is understandable that you might oppose Ron Paul's views on the war in Iraq, but it is INSANE for you to say that Ron Paul is insane. It does not speak well for the validity of your opinions and comments.

Your posting privileges should be revoked on grounds of insanity.
308 posted on 11/08/2007 12:34:08 PM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Dreddnafious
No question, it’s a big tent. Liberty’s a damn big tent man.

A pre 9/11 antiwar mentality is not "Liberty."

309 posted on 11/08/2007 12:39:00 PM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Iwo Jima
It is understandable that you might oppose Ron Paul's views on the war in Iraq, but it is INSANE for you to say that Ron Paul is insane. It does not speak well for the validity of your opinions and comments.

Ohhh....great come back, but it still doesn't address Ron Paul's lack of sanity. Believe me, I'm not trying to minimize him or be cute...I am fully convinced he is not sane. No joke.

Your posting privileges should be revoked on grounds of insanity.

I can see why Ron Paul signs are frequently seen at moonbat rallies...Ron Paul supporters and the left wing moonbats obviously share the same distaste for free speech and seek to silence dissenting views.

310 posted on 11/08/2007 12:39:09 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Zevonismymuse
My kids are young adults and Ron Paul is the most popular candidate with their friends, most of whom have a natural left bent.

The same is true of my son except that he goes to Texas A & M and is libertarian and largely conservative. He has given 100s of his own hard earned dollars to the campaign, and cannot wait to get to get our and campaign.

If the Republican party continues to seek to destroy Ron Paul to the point of running an opponent in his congressional campaign, it will bitterly alienate a generation of young people.
311 posted on 11/08/2007 12:40:04 PM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Doogle

“Real” in the sense of “certifiable,” yes.


312 posted on 11/08/2007 12:40:44 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: B4Ranch
If Ron Paul doesn’t win the primary, what will be the reaction of his supporters?

If he loses in a fair fight, there will be disappointment but most will move on to the next most liberty-oriented Republican candidate.

If he is specifically targeted by the Republican party for not just defeat but destruction to the point that he even loses his congressional seat, there will be many, many, many who will never vote Republican again, especially the young generation.
313 posted on 11/08/2007 12:51:21 PM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: A CA Guy
There is possibly lots of drug money to be given to libertarian leaning candidates. They tend to support no laws against recreational drugs and that might be impressive to the drug lords and drug abusers.

You have it exactly backwards. If the libertarian goal of legalization of drugs were to become reality, drug lords would lose all of their power and fortunes. They have power and fortune for one reason and one reason only: drugs are illegal. Drug lords most certainly support Republicans monetarily and otherwise. Remember Mena?

Read "Compromised" by Terry Read.
314 posted on 11/08/2007 1:08:19 PM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Qwinn

The “earmarks” slam has been roundly defeated. Try a different line of attack, that dog won’t hunt.


315 posted on 11/08/2007 1:13:32 PM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: ejonesie22
where one of your Paulinati buds got the zot,

Who got the zot?
316 posted on 11/08/2007 1:14:41 PM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: highlander_UW
He has a very poor grasp on reality.

That's not it. Like many of the candidates he is not keeping up with current events and keeps going back to the old, fossil record. Whoever ends up in the WH needs to be both up-to-date and fully aware of topics that are not beaten to death every hour on MSM news broadcast.

317 posted on 11/08/2007 1:16:08 PM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: Iwo Jima

Can’t remember, it was on a thread I don’t think I posted on, name started with a T...

I’ll look back and see when I can.


318 posted on 11/08/2007 1:24:03 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: ejonesie22

Well, if i spent my time apologizing for ill informed Paul supporters I wouldn’t have very much left of a day.

I’m trying to make a conservative argument for a Paul presidency, and i believe my position is well founded in conservative principals, and “to the right” of many people that claim to despise socialism.


319 posted on 11/08/2007 1:35:36 PM PST by Dreddnafious
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To: Dreddnafious

True, true, same with ill informed anyone.

Yes, there is a conservative case to be made for RP, I can even buy some of it. But the Anti war bit just sours the mix way too much.


320 posted on 11/08/2007 1:39:12 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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