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Officer who berated driver loses job in St. George
STLtoday.com ^ | 09/21/2007 | Kim Bell and Greg Jonsson

Posted on 09/22/2007 8:03:54 AM PDT by beltfed308

ST. GEORGE — A police officer who was recorded berating a motorist earlier this month has lost his job.

The board of aldermen voted 5-0, with one member absent, to fire Sgt. James Kuehnlein on Monday. The vote was cast in a session closed to the public and wasn't announced until Wednesday, when a notice was posted at the City Hall of this tiny south St. Louis County community.

In a video that got wide viewership on the Internet, Kuehnlein taunts and threatens motorist Brett Darrow, 20, sometimes shouting and using profanity, after questioning him in a commuter lot near Interstate 55. Darrow posted the footage of the Sept. 7 incident on the web.

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To: robertpaulsen; NittanyLion; JosephW
No. In order not to give the cop any excuse to write him up. This way he could claim he did nothing wrong.

I can't believe even you just said that. LOL!!!

341 posted on 09/23/2007 12:06:54 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: O6ret
"If the cop was half the professional he thought he was he should have been able to handle this situation without resorting to threats and intimidation."

True. There's no question he handled the (artificial) situation unprofessionally.

342 posted on 09/23/2007 12:09:15 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: thefactor
should the cop have had thicker skin? absolutely! this punk kid wasn't worth it

Thicker skin? The officer was not the one subjected to abuse. And why do you insist on calling the victim a "punk kid?" Imagine how things would have played out if the conversation had gone:

Officer: May I see your ID?
Citizen: Did I do something wrong?
Officer: (Mistakenly, according to the video) Yes, you were driving erratically before you entered the parking lot and you failed to signal when you made the turn.

But, since the officer didn't have a good reason to confront the citizen, he blew-up when asked a perfectly legitimate question that any of us should be able to inquire of the police when detained by them: "Did I do something wrong?"

Bad cop, no donut!

343 posted on 09/23/2007 12:09:34 PM PDT by whd23
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To: Ken H; Brett Darrow
With cameras getting cheaper and smaller all the time, and with the notoriety this incident has received, citizen recordings are likely to become MUCH MORE common.
It would behoove our public servants to be on their best behavior.
Otherwise, they'll end up like the unfortunate ex-Officer Kuehnlein.

As I commented much earlier:
A dangerous 'game' is being played, - on both sides.
I can understand Darrows motives in recording, and messing with bad cops.
---- But why do cops want to 'mess with' citizens?

344 posted on 09/23/2007 12:09:43 PM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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To: tacticalogic

That post is something else. He literally just implied that this guy deliberately obeyed the law in an apparent deception to keep a cop from being able to write him up - he used his psychic powers beforehand, apparently, to know that the cop would falsely claim he hadn’t used his turning signal, so he made sure to use the signal and obey the law to trip the cop up.

Unbelieveable.


345 posted on 09/23/2007 12:10:30 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat
That post is something else. He literally just implied that this guy deliberately obeyed the law in an apparent deception to keep a cop from being able to write him up - he used his psychic powers beforehand, apparently, to know that the cop would falsely claim he hadn’t used his turning signal, so he made sure to use the signal and obey the law to trip the cop up.

Yup, you just can't trust those citizens; there's no telling to what depths they'll stoop.

346 posted on 09/23/2007 12:14:31 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: tacticalogic
"Given a confrontation between a citizen and a police officer, we're supposed to make the primary consideration the protection of the officers personal finances?"

I'm simply saying he's playing a dangerous game. He's free to do whatever his little heart desires.

347 posted on 09/23/2007 12:19:26 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Iwo Jima
robertpaulsen


348 posted on 09/23/2007 12:23:49 PM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: robertpaulsen

So it’s an implied threat.


349 posted on 09/23/2007 12:25:28 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Republican Wildcat
"Outrageous that you condone a police officer threatening to make up false charges"

I don't condone it, but that's not the point. The point of my comment was that I wouldn't condone any behavior from my son which would cause a cop to threaten charges.

350 posted on 09/23/2007 12:26:49 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Republican Wildcat; NittanyLion

At this point it would appear time to call in the moderator for abuse by this guy (robertpaulsen). However, I can’t bring myself to do it as I’m laughing to much at him as he digs this hole.

There’s a few others on here who obviously don’t want to see the truth, but this guy takes the cake (or probably a baker’s dozen of donuts).


351 posted on 09/23/2007 12:28:43 PM PDT by JosephW (Mohammad Lied, People die!)
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To: robertpaulsen
No. In order not to give the cop any excuse to write him up. This way he could claim he did nothing wrong.

The dirty rat! What are today's kids coming to? Why in my day......
352 posted on 09/23/2007 12:30:08 PM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: robertpaulsen
The point of my comment was that I wouldn't condone any behavior from my son which would cause a cop to threaten charges.

So the way to protect ourselves from bad cops is to support and defend them and do whatever they say.

353 posted on 09/23/2007 12:32:00 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: rednesss

O.K., —LOL— which is which?


354 posted on 09/23/2007 12:32:15 PM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: dragnet2
"And you know this how?"

Easy. I consult the same oracle that tells everyone else on this thread that the cop was lying when he said there were break-ins of cars in this lot. The oracle is never wrong.

"Let me guess, you think video boy is pro-law enforcement right?"

No. I think he hates cops.

"And if caught off guard with out his camera, he'd be "yes sir no sir" show total cooperation like the good citizen he is."

Without the camera, he'd be "Yes sir, no sir" because there's nothing in it for him to mouth off.

355 posted on 09/23/2007 12:32:25 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: tenthirteen

I love a snitch against dirty cops. Absolutely love them, I wish that we had thousands of them. And against dirty politicians, too.


356 posted on 09/23/2007 12:34:21 PM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: robertpaulsen; Brett Darrow
If your parents won't tell you, I will - you're playing a dangerous game, making this a personal vendetta. These guys have families, careers, and pensions, and you're a threat to all three.

A dangerous game is being played Robert Paulson who believes having a few bad cops is ok and we must protect their careers and pensions by not invading their privacy with our cameras. He thinks it's ok for cops to destroy tapes that make them look bad and keep the ones that don't. He believes it is not ok for everyone else to tape or record cops because that could threaten the careers and pensions of the bad ones.

If it were a case of government mediocracy, he might have a point. Teachers or bureacrats might have some expectation of privacy because there are other ways to monitor their behavior. But a cop who overreacts in these and other situations is not going to be policed by the police, nor by anyone else. In fact, he will be defended and protected and covered up for. RP himself admits as much: "a dangerous game" trying to weed out the bad apples. Perhaps RP would go further and explain exactly what is so dangerous about recording the police? What, precisely, is the danger?

357 posted on 09/23/2007 12:41:20 PM PDT by palmer
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To: Republican Wildcat
"I can't believe even you just said that. LOL!!!"

It worked, didn't it? The cop tried to claim he didn't signal, but it's on video. Take that, you dirty copper!

Hmmmmm. Why was the videotape started when it was? Almost like he knew what was coming, huh?

Pfffft! Why am I asking you? You don't have a clue. All you're good for is mocking others.

358 posted on 09/23/2007 12:41:54 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Almost like he knew what was coming, huh?

Since you seem to think he did know what was coming, how exactly did he know? Let's hear your theory on how he knew this cop was going to hassle him even before he turned into the parking lot.

359 posted on 09/23/2007 12:43:48 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: whd23

Is that your wallpaper? Which one is you? Or are they just “friends” of yours?


360 posted on 09/23/2007 12:44:04 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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