My point being that he was setting up the cop.
Let me get this straight: a 20 year-old obeying traffic laws is "setting up" the cop?
"His name is Robert Paulsen"
-Fight Club
Posted on 09/22/2007 8:03:54 AM PDT by beltfed308
ST. GEORGE — A police officer who was recorded berating a motorist earlier this month has lost his job.
The board of aldermen voted 5-0, with one member absent, to fire Sgt. James Kuehnlein on Monday. The vote was cast in a session closed to the public and wasn't announced until Wednesday, when a notice was posted at the City Hall of this tiny south St. Louis County community.
In a video that got wide viewership on the Internet, Kuehnlein taunts and threatens motorist Brett Darrow, 20, sometimes shouting and using profanity, after questioning him in a commuter lot near Interstate 55. Darrow posted the footage of the Sept. 7 incident on the web.
(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...
Officer, please identify yourself and explain for the record the probable cause for detaining my client in (State, Location). Your answer will be archived in a secure remote location........
OMG! That would absolutely rock!
I think we might be able to conclude that Brett can even take Chuck Norris, but it’s going to be close.
My point being that he was setting up the cop.
Let me get this straight: a 20 year-old obeying traffic laws is "setting up" the cop?
"His name is Robert Paulsen"
-Fight Club
Ahmm - I guess you must have skipped over my post #261, where I posited such scenarios to you... (inconvenient?)
note to self: Why do the nay sayers continue to refer to this young man, in his 20's, as the 'kid' the 'punk kid', etc. Is it because it better fits their judgment that the cop is right and 'the punk' is wrong? Seems a dight dishonest...
People who live there and have provided the statistics are on this thread. Read up.
Who never did show up.
Brett's response to this is below. But I imagine that you won't read it, and if you do you'll ignore it.
Sure. And we have public parks on the south side of Chicago that are open 24 hours. Maybe you'd like to exercise your constitutional rights to visit one at 2am?
Since when did I become part of this story? Stay on topic or go home, junior.
He was parked! What do you mean "delayed"? "Delayed" from doing what?
Delayed from changing his radio stations. Delayed from reclining his seat and thinking pleasant thoughts. Don't gripe semantics with me, junior. It makes you seem deliberately obtuse.
It was constitutionally proper for the cop to ask the questions he did, given the circumstances. The kid was evasive, adding to the cop's suspicion.
Did you even watch the video? Sheesh.
APf
A good thing has been done here - this bad cop was exposed for what he is and is gone - hopefully to never be an officer again, anywhere. He needs some anger management classes.
That said, don’t let your public exposure/fame mess with your mind, nor allow this experience make yourself paranoid by all police officers. Good luck to you.
And one is seeing that "separation of the wheat and chafe" more and more pronounced now - and Hitlery shall lead the jack booters - she is waiting for the day she can yell "Sieg Heil" to the masses, who will respond "Heil Hitlery"
LOL
Wll, they don’t like snitches, but I can’t stand smarmy snitches.
I don't believe the threat is only from the left.
Hey, you finally got something right!
Go Fred!
You screwed up and forgot your cellphone. It was important that you get it back that night, even though you had your mom's cellphone. Your friend only lived 20 minutes away (5+15=20) yet you asked her to get out of bed, get dressed, and drive most of the way to meet you in a deserted parking lot at 2am. Nice guy.
The cop may indeed be lying about the recent break-ins, I don't know. But compared to your story, it sounds like God's honest truth.
How about this:
Officer #1: How we doin? What’s going on?
robertpaulsen: Good morning officer. Oh, I'm waiting to met a friend. She's on her way.
Officer #1: Why you parkin here?
robertpaulsen: Well, this lot is about half way, and she's bringing me my cell phone that I forgot. Can I park here for about 15 minutes and wait for her? It’s a commuter lot right?
Officer #1: Yeah, but we have problems after midnight time. People break into cars. You got any ID on you?
robertpaulsen: Yeah, I do. Here ya go.
What's wrong with that?
Look. You may be a nice kid and all but I just don't believe you. You could have handled the situation differently but you chose to be a smart ass. I think it was your intent to antagonize the cop into doing something stupid on video and you succeeded.
If you would have been arrested, your girlfriend (asuming your story was true) would have been sitting in that vacant lot, all alone, at 2am, waiting for you to show. What about her? Not a good circumstance in the best of neighborhoods.
If your parents won't tell you, I will - you're playing a dangerous game, making this a personal vendetta. These guys have families, careers, and pensions, and you're a threat to all three.
Yeah, there are a few cops who are bad apples. A few who are rough around the edges. You push, they push back. But it is St. Louis, Missouri, not Boca Raton, Florida.
The problem is, the camera was rolling -- probably another YouTube fame seeker. Because it's now public, I agree that the cop needs to be fired.
With cameras getting cheaper and smaller all the time, and with the notoriety this incident has received, citizen recordings are likely to become MUCH MORE common.
It would behoove our public servants to be on their best behavior. Otherwise, they'll end up like the unfortunate ex-Officer Kuehnlein.
I'm a bit frightened you are right.
It's alarmingly evident in this thread
Sure I do. Perhaps they'll react with a dirty look. Perhaps they write a ticket instead of a warning. Perhaps they'll overreact. I have no idea who I'm dealing with. Which is why I'm so polite.
(Not to you, of course, but that's only because you started it.)
Well okay maybe he won't be setting up a law practice anytime soon but I bet he can say
"Boy can I supersize that for you boy" Uh boy?
Oh, I doubt ghetto thugs will let such a minor distinction get in the way of welcoming you to the anti-snitch movement.
Given a confrontation between a citizen and a police officer, we're supposed to make the primary consideration the protection of the officers personal finances?
No. In order not to give the cop any excuse to write him up. This way he could claim he did nothing wrong.
No doubt an anarchist, bent on denying the city their rightful share of his paycheck in traffic court.
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