“The Republican talk is to win in Iraq, win the GWOT by using the tools necessary to go after terrorists, including partiot act, surveillance, gitmo, etc.”
Yeah? Where in the Republican Party platform do you find those points?”
It’s in the 2004 GOP party platform. Just look.
“how we expect to defend freedom by diminishing it is really rather beyond me.”
strawman argument. Fighting the war on terror, having a patriot act, etc. do not diminish our freedoms, but protect them from beign robbed by terrorists.
This what the GOP platform says on it:
“Bush, Cheney, the Congress, and governors across the nation have taken significant steps to streamline the federal government; tighten security at entry points like ports, airports, and borders; strengthen protections at critical infrastructure landmarks such as power and water plants; and reduce the threats of bioterrorism and cyberterrorism. Through all their actions, Bush and Congress have been careful to protect the rights and liberties that make America a beacon of freedom and justice.”
“Apparently, however, you big-government Republicans ..” That’s a slander. I am anything but that.
If I've slandered you, I apologize, because that was not my intent. However, you may want to take a hard look at the actions of our current president, and the kind of authority he'll be handing over to some liberal authoritarian administration down the road...because it's inevitable, you know. If it isn't Hillary and it isn't next year, it'll be some scion of the Kennedys or a Kerry grandchild or some other socialist with a powerful sense of entitlement and no conscience who one day steps into the Oval Office.
Our descendants won't thank us on that day.
“how we expect to defend freedom by diminishing it is really rather beyond me.”
strawman argument. Fighting the war on terror, having a patriot act, etc. do not diminish our freedoms, but protect them from beign [sic] robbed by terrorists.”
So we diminish our own freedom to save it from being diminished by terrorists? How smart is THAT????? And, yes, our own liberty IS diminished, substantially, by such usurpations of power as are committed by the “patriot” act and others like it. Do YOU suppose that co-presidents clowntoon would hesitate for one nano-second to call conservatives and FReepers domestic terrorists and have us all sent to the labor camps, using these powers? If you do, you are worse off than I could possibly imagine.