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To: Turret Gunner A20
Please stay on subject or drop it.

Here is a definition of heresy from Dictionary.com:

her•e•sy –noun, plural -sies.

1. opinion or doctrine at variance with the orthodox or accepted doctrine, esp. of a church or religious system.

2. the maintaining of such an opinion or doctrine.

3. Roman Catholic Church. the willful and persistent rejection of any article of faith by a baptized member of the church.

4. any belief or theory that is strongly at variance with established beliefs, customs, etc.

I simply pointed out what I find to be a glaring inconsistency in the Morman view of god. In doing so, I have used Morman sources - Moroni 8:18; Mormon 9:9-10. I could add “For behold, God knowing all things, being from everlasting to everlasting, behold, he sent angels to minister unto the children of men, to make manifest concerning the coming of Christ; and in Christ there should come every good thing.” Moroni 7: 22.

The Book of Mormon shows an unchanging God. The King Follett Discourse shows a changing god. “In order to understand the subject of the dead for the consolation of those who mourn for the loss of their friends, it is necessary they should understand the character and being of God; for I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined that God was God from all eternity. [That he was not is an idea] incomprehensible to some. But it is the simple and first principle of the gospel-to know for a certainty the character of God, that we may converse with him as one man with another. God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth the same as Jesus Christ himself did, and I will show it from the Bible. –KFD http://mldb.byu.edu/follett.htm

Joseph Smith describes an evolving and changing god, which is inconsistent with the Morman documents and the also with the Bible. This is heresy against the BOM and the Bible.

I merely asked by whose definition, and why you think that definition to be the final truth in the matter.

These are not my opinions. These are direct quotes from Mormon documents. By any definition of heresy, it is with Joseph Smith and the religion he founded.

235 posted on 06/12/2007 7:06:37 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Choose life!)
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To: FatherofFive

re: 235

“Here is a definition of heresy from Dictionary.com:

her•e•sy –noun, plural -sies.

1. opinion or doctrine at variance with the orthodox or accepted doctrine, esp. of a church or religious system.

2. the maintaining of such an opinion or doctrine.

3. Roman Catholic Church. the willful and persistent rejection of any article of faith by a baptized member of the church.

4. any belief or theory that is strongly at variance with established beliefs, customs, etc.

>>>> So once upon a time folks who believed the earth was round, or that it was not the center of the universe, or that blood circulated through the body were heretics (the Church even burned a bunch of them). Does that mean that those folks were wrong? Therefore, it would seem that calling someone a heretic is kinda silly and an empty opinion based on little more than arrogant declarations of alleged truths.

“I simply pointed out what I find to be a glaring inconsistency in the Morman view of god.”

>>>> And I will point out another source of doxens of inconsistencies — the Holy Bible. Does that make ALL christian sects out to be heretics?

Think on it?


239 posted on 06/12/2007 7:52:36 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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