“According to whom? Well, Orthodox Christianity as advised by the New Testament and the teachings of Jesus ... Mormonism claims to be THE restored Christian Authority, a slap in the face heresy for any Chrisitan sect or Catholicism. What a way to start a new religion don’tchaknow.”
>>>> Ahem! How did Christianity get started?? By adhering to the teachings of the orthodox religions of the day? Or were the original Christians not considered heretics then by biased critics with personal interests to protect?
“Of course, you may wish to claim that Smith had God’s blessing in rewriting the Book of Genesis to include himself after the fact (adding hundreds of words and more than a dozen verses to chapter 50 *”
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/jst/contents *) but that is the very essence of said heresies, taking authority to speak for God where it is not given by God.
>>>> Hold it right there. I have not claimed anything, nor do I wish to do so. This is not about what I believe or don’t believe. It is about what you seem to believe, and why you believe it. You named the Mormons’ beliefs heresies — I”m merely trying to elicit from you upon what UNBIASED authority you do so. Can you furnish any such?
And how do you KNOW FOR SURE that the Mormons beliefs are heresies — or is it just what your priest or minister told you?
You are looking at a member of the Heresy police. Nevermind that they conveniently leave alone oddities of other faiths alone such as Catholics, etc.
Mormonism claims that ALL Christian witness following the death of the last Apostle and prior to the advent of Joe Smith has been apostasy (roughly 1500 years contradicting what Jesus told His Apostles regarding the gates of Hell not winnign against The Church). You will not see me shrink from exposing the Mormonism doctrines if for no other reason than that proclamation at the start of the smithianty religion. But going further, I seek to share the Gospel rather than a church. Are you interested?
You named the Mormons beliefs heresies Im merely trying to elicit from you upon what UNBIASED authority you do so. Can you furnish any such?Wow. You can't get along with anyone, turbid grunter. I have no brief for Christianity orthodox or otherwise. But even a Jew like me knows that the creeds and canons articulate the ancient basis of normative Christianity (e.g. Nicene Creed, Apostle's Creed, Creed of St. Athanasius, the canon of scripture). And even a Jew like me knows that the Mormon confession departs from those creeds and canons, e.g. it adds to the canon of scripture, it offers an alternative Christology. I wouldn't say that Mormonism is heretical, however. IMHO it simply isn't Christian, at least not the Christianity conferred by the Apostles.
Well, one way is because they are inconsistent. Perhaps you can explain what I see as a serious inconsistency in Mormon theology.
Here it is:
"I know that God is not a partial God, neither a changeable being; but he is unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity" (Moroni 8:18).
"For do we not read that God is the same yesterday, today and forever, and in him there is no variableness, neither shadow of changing? And now, if ye have imagined up unto yourselves a god who doth vary, and in whom there is shadow of changing, then ye have imagined up unto yourselves a god who is not a God of miracles" (Mormon 9:9-10).
"Here, then, is eternal life--to know the only wise and true God. And you have got to learn how to be Gods yourselves--to be kings and priests to God, the same as all Gods have done--by going from a small degree to another, from grace to grace, from exaltation to exaltation, until you are able to sit in glory as do those who sit enthroned in everlasting power." - King Follett Discourse
Moroni and Mormon describe God as immutable and unchanging. TheKFD shows something else. How can you believe that God is at the same time immutable and changing, that from all eternity he was as he now is, but he somehow evolved from a mere mortal?
God evolved or he didn't. Mormans seem to have it both ways. How is this possible?