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Continuing The Bigotry
Captain's Quarters Blog ^ | 06/10/07 | Ed Morrisey

Posted on 06/10/2007 7:24:29 PM PDT by Reaganesque

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To: nowandlater

Paragraphs are your friends.


181 posted on 06/11/2007 3:00:30 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 ("You know," he says, "I haven't spent a dime yet." FDT, June 9, 2007)
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To: ComeUpHigher; John Semmens
Let me just state that in other posts, John Semmens describes you folks and your methodology in a tactful, but truthful way.

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182 posted on 06/11/2007 3:15:30 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 ("You know," he says, "I haven't spent a dime yet." FDT, June 9, 2007)
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To: ComeUpHigher
I’ve never called God a bigot.

Is God a bigot?

Are they “internally consistent?”

They are. St. Paul the Jerk said "I" instead of "God" when giving his own opinions. (That's a whole different discussion...)

P.S. So you’ve appropriated Christ’s role as my Judge?

Christ Himself did, do you mind?

I’ll let my Savior be my Judge.

... Guess not...

183 posted on 06/11/2007 3:30:40 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: colorcountry

Here ya go!

http://www.meridianmagazine.com/jsbicentennial/051223js.html


184 posted on 06/11/2007 4:16:01 PM PDT by nowandlater ("If elected, I will not compel the states to free the slaves." Abraham Lincoln 1860)
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To: nowandlater; MHGinTN; P-Marlowe; greyfoxx39; Colofornian; aMorePerfectUnion; Elsie; Enosh; ...

I really wouldn’t draw attention to this article if I were you. As I said, it is heresy in the highest form, and Christians would be deeply offended by it.

If Romney wants to win any election including dog-catcher, I would keep this type of “revelation” under wraps.

As I said the OT clearly points to Christ as the final Prophet. Now you wish to say publicly that the Prophets of old were not prophesying of Christ but were pointing to Joseph Smith instead?

Just WOW!

Of course I know these types of “revelations” since I was once a Mormon, but I presumed you were not arrogant enough to try and pull this one off on the general Christian public at large. Now I know better.


185 posted on 06/11/2007 6:41:38 PM PDT by colorcountry ( We need to move away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. (Duncan Hunter))
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To: colorcountry

“What did your “Savior” save you from?”

An excellent question CC! You are a thoughtful lady.

And if someone believes in universal salvation - everyone
goes to heaven, just a matter of which level, based on
works - what are they being saved from???

Did the church of mormonism ever tell you the answer to
this question?

ampu


186 posted on 06/11/2007 7:18:49 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: colorcountry; nowandlater
If Romney wants to win any election including dog-catcher, I would keep this type of “revelation” under wraps.

No kidding. Here you have a guy arguing that Joseph was a direct descendant of the Jesus Christ, which would mean that Jesus had to have been married, which would be an adulterous relationship inasmuch as the Church is supposed to be the Bride of Christ.

Yeah that kind of article is not going to help Romney at all. Not only will it tick off evangelicals, but also Catholics and Jews as well.

Even though I would not have a specific problem with a Mormon in the white house, I think that because the religion is marked by so many strange and weird doctrines and such a bizzarre history, that the election of a Mormon is not going to happen in my lifetime or Romney's.

Romney's best shot is for a VP slot behind Fred Thompson and I think that is a longshot.

187 posted on 06/11/2007 7:20:02 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: colorcountry
And they actually believe these asserted beliefs, these false prophecies by an adulterating conman will not offend Christians. ... But then, they aim to woo to their cult, not to Christ, so I guess it isn't so astonishing when you think about it. Even satan isn't ashamed of Christ, he just doesn't trust Him for salvation and led the first couple astray by wooing them to their self-aggrandizement. [ Cue poster to tell us she loves her church ]
188 posted on 06/11/2007 7:24:26 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I understood that Christ was the Savior of all mankind. When I was raised in Mormonism, he wasn’t to be considered a “personal” Savior at all. He was simply the one who came up with the plan, the firstborn Spirit Child of God, and the chosen Spirit Child to place into effect the “plan of exhaltation.”

The Jesus Christ I knew in Mormonism saved all mankind from eternal death, but hadn’t atoned for any of my personal sins. Since then (the 1960’s and 70’s) there has been an evolution of the teachings, I’m not sure what they teach now. That’s why I asked the question.....and got no answer.


189 posted on 06/11/2007 7:27:23 PM PDT by colorcountry ( We need to move away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. (Duncan Hunter))
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To: MHGinTN

Heresies? According to who?


190 posted on 06/11/2007 7:48:45 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Turret Gunner A20
According to whom? Well, Orthodox Christianity as advised by the New Testament and the teachings of Jesus ... Mormonism claims to be THE restored Christian Authority, a slap in the face heresy for any Chrisitan sect or Catholicism. What a way to start a new religion don'tchaknow.

Of course, you may wish to claim that Smith had God's blessing in rewriting the Book of Genesis to include himself after the fact (adding hundreds of words and more than a dozen verses to chapter 50 * http://scriptures.lds.org/en/jst/contents *), but that is the very essence of said heresies, taking authority to speak for God where it is not given by God.

191 posted on 06/11/2007 8:08:17 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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To: colorcountry

Thanks.

Wonderful that you have come to know Christ now.

And it remains a good question - if everyone goes to heaven, why does anyone need a “personal Savior”?

best,
ampu


192 posted on 06/11/2007 8:19:37 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: colorcountry

Lol! Jewish sources not Mormon! But thanks anyway for giving Mormons credit for it!


193 posted on 06/11/2007 8:42:09 PM PDT by nowandlater ("If elected, I will not compel the states to free the slaves." Abraham Lincoln 1860)
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To: colorcountry

LOL! You don’t know your New Testament! In Acts there are prophets after Jesus.

Again, Jewish sources back up the orginal point. Nice trying to distract from the issue on hand.


194 posted on 06/11/2007 8:48:51 PM PDT by nowandlater ("If elected, I will not compel the states to free the slaves." Abraham Lincoln 1860)
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To: MHGinTN

“According to whom? Well, Orthodox Christianity as advised by the New Testament and the teachings of Jesus ... Mormonism claims to be THE restored Christian Authority, a slap in the face heresy for any Chrisitan sect or Catholicism. What a way to start a new religion don’tchaknow.”

>>>> Ahem! How did Christianity get started?? By adhering to the teachings of the orthodox religions of the day? Or were the original Christians not considered heretics then by biased critics with personal interests to protect?

“Of course, you may wish to claim that Smith had God’s blessing in rewriting the Book of Genesis to include himself after the fact (adding hundreds of words and more than a dozen verses to chapter 50 *”
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/jst/contents *) but that is the very essence of said heresies, taking authority to speak for God where it is not given by God.

>>>> Hold it right there. I have not claimed anything, nor do I wish to do so. This is not about what I believe or don’t believe. It is about what you seem to believe, and why you believe it. You named the Mormons’ beliefs heresies — I”m merely trying to elicit from you upon what UNBIASED authority you do so. Can you furnish any such?

And how do you KNOW FOR SURE that the Mormons beliefs are heresies — or is it just what your priest or minister told you?


195 posted on 06/11/2007 8:49:51 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: MHGinTN

No evidence of adultery! DNA evidence has shown the only progenitors of Smith were through Emma! I could ‘spiritually or figuratively’ marry a million woman but if I marry none by the law then it is pointless.


196 posted on 06/11/2007 8:52:06 PM PDT by nowandlater ("If elected, I will not compel the states to free the slaves." Abraham Lincoln 1860)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

You are looking at a member of the Heresy police. Nevermind that they conveniently leave alone oddities of other faiths alone such as Catholics, etc.


197 posted on 06/11/2007 8:54:13 PM PDT by nowandlater ("If elected, I will not compel the states to free the slaves." Abraham Lincoln 1860)
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To: ComeUpHigher
Is God a bigot?

Yes - or - No

198 posted on 06/11/2007 8:55:52 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: Turret Gunner A20
Unbiased? Well, are you aware that jesus stated that man comes to the Father but by Him? God IS biased. So no, I cannot offer to you an unbiased source. But if you're of a mind to hear the biased truth, I'll gladly share the Gospel of Jesus Christ with you and you can go find a church you feel fulfills your needs as God lays them upon your heart, as in 'work out your own salvation in fear and trembling' (as in live it before men knowing you will on occasion fail and be very embarassed by the failure but you will find God never leaves you or foresakes you once you're in His family).

Mormonism claims that ALL Christian witness following the death of the last Apostle and prior to the advent of Joe Smith has been apostasy (roughly 1500 years contradicting what Jesus told His Apostles regarding the gates of Hell not winnign against The Church). You will not see me shrink from exposing the Mormonism doctrines if for no other reason than that proclamation at the start of the smithianty religion. But going further, I seek to share the Gospel rather than a church. Are you interested?

199 posted on 06/11/2007 9:26:10 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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To: nowandlater

Your naivety in service to your cult is amazing. But not surprising at this point.


200 posted on 06/11/2007 9:27:40 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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