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Continuing The Bigotry
Captain's Quarters Blog ^ | 06/10/07 | Ed Morrisey

Posted on 06/10/2007 7:24:29 PM PDT by Reaganesque

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To: colorcountry

No I don’t think I call FC furryball that was MGT, I call Fast Coyote, FastCootie

those are my endearment names


101 posted on 06/10/2007 9:29:08 PM PDT by restornu
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To: SIDENET
good point.

you might also ask how nonbelievers should be teated in a just society (i.e., one run according to the beliefs of the persn in question.

102 posted on 06/10/2007 9:29:48 PM PDT by drhogan
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To: colorcountry
On May 21, I posted a thread that had, as it's original topic, Mitt Romney's use of the word "golly." Twenty-two days, 954 replies and 5,708 views later, this thread is still active with you and others arguing Mormon theology. I can only draw the conclusion from this that anything and everything I post will be considered to be "inflammatory." Therefore, taking your sensibilities into account when deciding to post is not, shall we say, practical. As to name calling, there has been plenty of that on both sides here so you are not the only victim.
103 posted on 06/10/2007 9:31:21 PM PDT by Reaganesque (Romney 2008)
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To: restornu

Those names are funny. :-)

It really is up to the receiver as to whether or not they are “endearing.”

I still love you resty! I’m going to bed now.


104 posted on 06/10/2007 9:32:58 PM PDT by colorcountry ( We need to move away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. (Duncan Hunter))
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To: Reaganesque

I’m not actively posting on that thread. If you go back to the beginning of that thread, you will see I entered the discussions on good terms having nothing to do with Mormonism. (I posted a picture of Jim Nabors....goolllyyy)remember. Then I was called “anti-Mormon” or bigot or some such (I’ve come to pretty much ignore the name-calling, it is so Kindergarten.)


105 posted on 06/10/2007 9:36:20 PM PDT by colorcountry ( We need to move away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. (Duncan Hunter))
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To: rickdylan

You are exactly right about most Mormons not giving a rat’s a** about theology. In fact, most non-Mormons don’t give a rat’s a** about theology. Most people simply are comfortable in believing something about a God and a possiblity of living after death etc. They don’t have any in-depth knowledge about their own denomination, and see most “American” religions as just variations of the same theme.

Do you know why Romney chose to be a Mormon? I’ve never talked to the man, but I can tell you why, because it’s the same reason 95 percent of us are whatever we are. He didn’t choose to be Mormon — his parents chose it for him. And like most people, he was indoctrinated into believing it would upset his parents, his other family members, and probably God if he didn’t just sign up for Mormonism too. Fear and guilt. Whether your parents intended to use those weapons against you or not, they were used against you in your youth. Your theology most likely is the religion of your parents. People are sheep.


106 posted on 06/10/2007 9:37:17 PM PDT by BuckeyeForever
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To: colorcountry

Goodnight CC have sweet dream of two boys on bikes with name tags!:)


107 posted on 06/10/2007 9:39:57 PM PDT by restornu
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To: Reaganesque
On May 21, I posted a thread that had, as it's original topic, Mitt Romney's use of the word "golly."

Oh yes, and the title of that thread was "Romney the Gollygamist" or something very much like that.

Gollygamist is a direct reference to Polygamy and the controversy that surrounds Romney because of the early LDS practice of plural marriage. THAT is why Mormonism became part of the discussion....it didn't just come out of nowhere as some might presume.

108 posted on 06/10/2007 9:40:13 PM PDT by colorcountry ( We need to move away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. (Duncan Hunter))
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To: restornu

LOL.

They ARE sweet boys. I still sometimes remember them in my prayers. They are under so much stress, toil, strain, danger, and what they consider loving service. They deserve all of our prayers.


109 posted on 06/10/2007 9:41:44 PM PDT by colorcountry ( We need to move away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. (Duncan Hunter))
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To: BuckeyeForever
Your theology most likely is the religion of your parents. People are sheep.

Luckily for us sheep, there are those brave thinkers who have moved beyond their personal upbringing and have transcended themselves. If only we could all be so lucky. Write a book. Show us the way.

110 posted on 06/10/2007 9:45:10 PM PDT by the808bass
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To: BuckeyeForever; restornu; Reaganesque; sevenbak

Would any of you like to set buckeye straight about how strongly Romney believes in Mormonism.

He was a Bishop and Stake President which is a high ecclisiastical position. He is a Temple endowed member which means he has passed an interview regarding not only his strong faith but his knowledge and obedience as well.

No, Romney is NOT a fly-by-night, lukewarm believer by birth, he is a very staunch Mormon.

Bed, I’ve got to go to bed.


111 posted on 06/10/2007 9:45:28 PM PDT by colorcountry ( We need to move away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. (Duncan Hunter))
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To: BuckeyeForever

That is not how it works for all Bucky I am converting and did my own homework before I was baptized!

I have a witness by the Power of the Holy Ghost and so I did investigate the Church and those who are successful in the Church also had their personal revelation.

True some are there because of the family but one would be miserable if they did not have witness that Church was true and find a way to justify their leaving!

I am the only member from my family.

Most LDS are very familiar with their standard works and than some there is a whole lot of independent studying going on.

I can tell you Romney is a practicing LDS

No sheepo here!:)


112 posted on 06/10/2007 9:53:26 PM PDT by restornu
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To: JRochelle
I swear, every time I log onto FR, there is a Mormon/Romney thread going. It boggles the mind...

Well, very very very few people seem to know that Romney is a Mormon. And almost no one knows what they really believe.
113 posted on 06/11/2007 2:17:14 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudi & McVain: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: Reaganesque; colorcountry; Religion Moderator
Reaganesque: On May 21, I posted a thread that had, as it's original topic, Mitt Romney's use of the word "golly." Twenty-two days, 954 replies and 5,708 views later, this thread is still active with you and others arguing Mormon theology.

Just imagine if he said "Gosh"!

Riots, tsunamis, polygamy, recession, it would truly be hell on earth.

You know, this kind of thing really make our forum look like idiots. And it's just a few members who think it must be "debated" and the voters warned about Mormons.

Anyone who cares about this that much knows Romney is Mormon, knows what Mormons are and will cast their vote against him. So posts like this at FR only make us look stupid. Or like we're some rabid anti-Mormon site.

Personally, I think it harms our ability to recruit new FReepers and it almost certainly will hurt our fundraising.
114 posted on 06/11/2007 2:36:48 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudi & McVain: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: colorcountry
"He was a Bishop and Stake President which is a high ecclesiastical position. He is a Temple endowed member which means he has passed an interview regarding not only his strong faith but his knowledge and obedience as well."

Oh, now THIS is really irritating. Now I'm more annoyed at Romney than I was. My problem is not that Romney is "a Mormon." My problem with him is that he isn't Mormon ENOUGH. Theologically I think the Mormons are off in the weeds. This wouldn't in and of itself stop me from voting for a Mormon. Had I lived in Utah, I'd have no problem voting for Orin Hatch. I look at what a man or woman DOES, and I don't automatically assume that they follow everything accord to "brand name." It's how a person actually walks the walk.... For instance Rudy's "I don't personally believe in abortion, but blah, blah, blah, I'll uphold abortion rights" STINKS in my opinion, and he is supposed to be the same religion as I am. I'm voting for the Baptist, Hunter. Because when push comes to shove he VOTES the right way on the values. HOW he got there, is his business. THAT he got there is what's important. I don't trust Mitt in the sense that he's been a blow dried slickster trying to get in good with the creeps from Massachusetts and for years he sold out on the prolife position. Now he's claiming to be prolife -- wanna bet he'll move back left again if he gets the nomination? As a Mormon, he SHOULD have been prolife all along. He wasn't. No one is perfect, but he compromised a core belief. Nuts to him. Again, not because he is a Mormon, but frankly, because he isn't a GOOD ENOUGH Mormon with some consistency on core values.

And as long as Wolf BLITZED gets to ask religious questions, I really wanna know how Barrack HUSSEIN Obama's early religious beliefs affect him, and why he supposed turned on that headhacker religion. Is he REALLY "done with it?" Or just "posing." And if that's racist...or bigoted...too bad. I won't vote for an atheist and I'm not voting for a headhacker supporter. REAL Jew, REAL Protestant, REAL Mormon, REAL Orthodox, REAL Catholic, REAL Mormon, no problem. REAL wishywashy? Forget it. I'm not having it.

115 posted on 06/11/2007 3:44:43 AM PDT by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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To: All
Here's an excerpt of Hugh Hewitt's interview with Jon Voight. Note that even Jon Voight's admits the movie's depiction of the events is "Poetry" and that presenting evidence in favor of Brigham Young's innonence would ruin that purpose of the film.

HH: We’ll do you movies later in the interview. I want to get back to Benedict. You know, you’ve done this movie September Dawn about an atrocity 150 years ago in a mountain meadow in Utah. And from that, you’re drawing a lot of lessons. You’ve been out there a lot talking a lot about this. How does the movie depict Brigham Young’s letter let them pass, the letter that many of his defenders say exonerates him from complicity? How does the movie treat it?



JV: You know something? The movie does not get into that. The movie…it is not a court session, you know, and I don’t really want to get into a court session about it. In a sense, that’s for others to do. What we’ve depicted in the movie, I think is very accurate from all that I have read. And of course, when we’re dealing with a film, we’re dealing with a metaphor of some sort, or you know, poetry of some sort, where you have to condense things down to another form. And then you have to determine, if you’re an artist, you have to determine whether that represents the truth. And in my judgment, it does represent the truth, this film under two hours, represents the events as they happened.


It will be interesting to see who here holds this film in high esteem or not. Who will on this forum will coveniently ignore the facts just because a film fits his or her agenda?

116 posted on 06/11/2007 4:57:02 AM PDT by nowandlater
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To: colorcountry
What’s good for the goose.....

Go goose yourSELF!!

You must hate us!

--MormonDude

117 posted on 06/11/2007 6:03:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: All

And I am a p**


118 posted on 06/11/2007 6:04:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BuckeyeForever
You are exactly right about most Mormons not giving a rat’s a** about theology. In fact, most non-Mormons don’t give a rat’s a** about theology. Most people simply are comfortable in believing something about a God and a possiblity of living after death etc. They don’t have any in-depth knowledge about their own denomination, and see most “American” religions as just variations of the same theme.

Amen to THIS!


NIV Hosea 4:5-6
5. You stumble day and night, and the prophets stumble with you. So I will destroy your mother--
6. my people are destroyed from lack of knowledge. "Because you have rejected knowledge, I also reject you as my priests; because you have ignored the law of your God, I also will ignore your children.

119 posted on 06/11/2007 6:07:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: George W. Bush
Just imagine if he said "Gosh"!

Indeed!!


120 posted on 06/11/2007 6:29:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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