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To: Man50D
You can't see the forest for the trees. They did more than intend to use them. They used their weapons against BATF!

The BATF's plan was to shoot the Davidians' dogs, then burst into their home and start throwing grenades. This plan was to be carried out regardless of anything the Davidians might have done to cooperate with a search.

The BATF did not have a no-knock warrant. That they started shooting and engaging in deadly force (concussion grenades are not as likely to kill as fragmentation grenades, but can still be deadly) without legal justification makes them criminals.

Further, the BATF fired thousands of rounds of ammunition randomly, including in the general direction of other BATF agents. Given the absolute recklessness of the BATF agents, it's amazing that there weren't more than four agents killed by friendly fire.

125 posted on 02/18/2007 12:08:16 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: supercat
The BATF's plan was to shoot the Davidians' dogs, then burst into their home and start throwing grenades. This plan was to be carried out regardless of anything the Davidians might have done to cooperate with a search.

The BATF didn't one day suddenly decide to indiscriminately choose to raid the Branch Davidian compound. They went there for a reason. If you bothered to read the whole article from the link The Waco Davidian Standoff provided in post #85 you would have seen the following passage:

"Also found were lathes, milling equipment and other tooling machinery, which essentially substantiated the suspicions of authorities, who believed that Koresh and the Davidians were engaged in the illegal conversion of assault rifles to automatic weapons and the manufacture of crude "grease guns."


Koresh and his followers possessed illegal firearms by illegally manufacturing firearms and also illegally possessed hand grenades.

This argument digresses from my original point the fed's have already established a precedent to deal with violent cults. Islam has the same basic violent belief system as the Branch Davidians and should be treated as a cult by our government.
131 posted on 02/18/2007 2:04:57 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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