[Man50D]

The BATF's plan was to shoot the Davidians' dogs, then burst into their home and start throwing grenades. This plan was to be carried out regardless of anything the Davidians might have done to cooperate with a search.

The BATF didn't one day suddenly decide to indiscriminately choose to raid the Branch Davidian compound. They went there for a reason. If you bothered to read the whole article from the link The Waco Davidian Standoff provided in post #85 you would have seen the following passage:

"Also found were lathes, milling equipment and other tooling machinery, which essentially substantiated the suspicions of authorities, who believed that Koresh and the Davidians were engaged in the illegal conversion of assault rifles to automatic weapons and the manufacture of crude "grease guns."

Koresh and his followers possessed illegal firearms by illegally manufacturing firearms and also illegally possessed hand grenades.

This argument digresses from my original point the fed's have already established a precedent to deal with violent cults. Islam has the same basic violent belief system as the Branch Davidians and should be treated as a cult by our government.

[supercat]

The BATF didn't one day suddenly decide to indiscriminately choose to raid the Branch Davidian compound. They went there for a reason.

Indeed so. They were in danger of losing funding, and needed Operation Showboat to convince Congress not to cut off the money spigot.

They did not have a no-knock warrant. Perhaps they should have gotten one. Since they did not, however, nothing that could be alleged against the Davidians could justify the plan to kill the Davidians' dogs and smash into their home throwing concussion grenades.

Absent exigent circumstances, police are not allowed to raid a person's property without a warrant which provides for the manner in which the raid is to be conducted. There is no plausible "exigent circumstances" argument here since the BATF spent days preparing for the raid. Were there any justice, all of the agents involved on the raid would be facing seven charges of felony murder.

[tpaine]

The Federal government considered the Branch Davidians a violent cult and set a precedent against cults when it destroyed the Branch Davidian compound.
Islam by the federal government's defintion based on their action against the Branch Davidians, is also a cult and should be dealt with in the same manner as the Branch Davidian's.
Consequently the proposed Amendment is not necessary.
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The proposed Amendment would be not only unnecessary, but also unconstitutional.

Koresh and his followers possessed illegal firearms by illegally manufacturing firearms and also illegally possessed hand grenades.

The firearms "Act" of 1933 is a clear infringement on our 2nd Amendment. Koresh and his followers were 'dealt with', -- before being able to present their case, -- by an unconstitutional use of force.

This argument digresses from my original point the fed's have already established a precedent to deal with violent cults.

You haven't made a valid constitutional point that cults can be 'dealt with' by an "established precedent" utilizing such force.

Islam has the same basic violent belief system as the Branch Davidians

Islam has a basic violent belief system. ---
--- You haven't established that the Branch Davidians had such a basic violent belief system.

and should be treated as a cult by our government.

If you truly believe that the Branch Davidians cult deserved to die because of their weapons, and/or political/religious views; -- get help.