Posted on 12/17/2006 4:03:30 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT
VEVAK learned its methodology from the Soviet KGB and many of the Islamist revolutionaries who supported Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini actually studied at Moscow's Patrice Lumumba Friendship University, the Oxford of terrorism. Documented Iranian alumni include the current Supreme Leader (the faqih) Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, under whose Velayat-e Faqih (Rule of the Islamic Jurisprudent) apparatus it has traditionally operated. Its current head is Cabinet Minister Hojatoleslam Gholam-Hussein Mohseni-Ezhei, a graduate of Qom's Haqqani School, noted for its extremist position advocating violence against enemies and strict clerical control of society and government. The Ministry is very well funded and its charge, like that of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (the Pasdaran) is to guard the revolutionary Islamic Iranian regime at all costs and under all contingencies.
From the KGB playbook, VEVAK learned the art of disinformation. It's not so difficult to learn: tell the truth 80% of the time and lie 20%. Depending on how well a VEVAK agent wants to cover his/her tracks, the ratio may go up to 90/10, but it never drops below the 80/20 mark as such would risk suspicion and possible detection. The regime in Teheran has gone to great lengths to place its agents in locations around the world. Many of these operatives have been educated in the West, including the U.K. and the United States. Iranian government agencies such as embassies, consulates, Islamic cultural centers, and airline offices regularly provide cover for the work of VEVAK agents who dress well and are clean shaven, and move comfortably within our society. In this country, because of the severance of diplomatic relations, the principal site of VEVAK activities begins at the offices of Iran's Permanent Mission to the UN in New York.
Teheran has worked diligently to place its operatives in important think tanks and government agencies in the West. Some of its personnel have been recruited while in prison through torture or more often through bribery, or a combination of both. Others are Islamist revolutionaries that have been set up to look like dissidents - often having been arrested and imprisoned, but released for “medical reasons”. The clue to detecting the fake “dissident” is to read carefully what he/she writes, and to ask why this vocal “dissident” was released from prison when other real dissidents have not been released, indeed have been grievously tortured and executed. Other agents have been placed in this country for over twenty-five years to slowly go through the system and rise to positions of academic prominence due to their knowledge of Farsi and Shia Islam or Islamist fundamentalism.
One of the usual tactics of VEVAK is to co-opt academia to its purposes. Using various forms of bribery, academics are bought to defend the Islamic Republic or slander its enemies. Another method is to assign bright students to train for academic posts as specialists in Iranian or Middle East affairs. Once established, such individuals are often consulted by our government as it tries to get a better idea of how it should deal with Iran. These academics then are in a position to skew the information, suggesting the utility of extended dialogue and negotiation, or the danger and futility of confronting a strong Iran or its proxies such as Hizballah (Hezbollah). These academics serve to shield the regime from an aggressive American or Western policy, and thereby buy more time for the regime to attain its goals, especially in regards to its nuclear weaponry and missile programs.
MOIS likes to use the media, especially electronic media, to its advantage. One of VEVAK's favorite tricks is setting up web sites that look like they are opposition sites but which are actually controlled by the regime. These sites often will be multilingual, including Farsi, German, Arabic French, and English. Some are crafted carefully and are very subtle in how they skew their information (e.g., Iran-Interlink, set up and run by Massoud Khodabandeh and his wife Ann Singleton from Leeds, England); others are less subtle, simply providing the regime's point of view on facts and events in the news (e.g., www.mujahedeen.com or www.mojahedin.ws). This latter group is aimed at the more gullible in our open society and unfortunately such a market exists. However, if one begins to do one's homework, asking careful questions, the material on these fake sites generally does not add up.
Let's examine a few examples of VEVAK's work in the United States. In late October, 2005, VEVAK sent three of its agents to Washington to stage a press event in which the principal Iranian resistance movement, the Mojahedin-e Khalq (MeK), was to be slandered. Veteran VEVAK agent Karim Haqi flew from Amsterdam to Canada where he was joined by VEVAK's Ottawa agents Amir-Hossein Kord Rostami and Mahin (Parvin-Mahrokh) Haji, and the three flew from Toronto to Washington. Fortunately the resistance had been tracking these three, informed the FBI of their presence in Washington, and when the three tried to hold a press conference, the resistance had people assigned to ask pointed questions of them so that they ended the interview prematurely and fled back to Canada.
Abolghasem Bayyenet is a member of the Iranian government. He serves as a trade expert for the Ministry of Commerce. But his background of study and service in the Foreign Ministry indicates that Bayyenet is more than just an economist or a suave and savvy businessman. In an article published in Global Politician on April 23, 2006, entitled “Is Regime Change Possible in Iran?”, Bayyenet leads his audience to think that he is a neutral observer, concerned lest the United States make an error in its assessment of Iran similar to the errors of intelligence and judgment that led to our 2003 invasion of Iraq, with its less than successful outcome. However, his carefully crafted bottom line is that the people of Iran are not going to support regime change and that hardliner President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad actually has achieved greater popularity than his predecessors because of his concern for the problems of the poor and his fight for economic and social justice. To the naive, Bayyenet makes Ahmadinejad sound positively saintly. Conveniently overlooked is the occurrence of over four thousand acts of protest, strikes, anti-regime rallies, riots, and even political assassinations by the people of Iran against the government in the year since Ahmadinejad assumed office. So too, the following facts are ignored: the sizeable flight of capital, the increase in unemployment, and the rising two-figure rate of inflation, all within this last year. Bayyenet is a regime apologist, and when one is familiar with the facts, his arguments ring very hollow. However, his English skills are excellent, and so the naОve might be beguiled by his commentary.
Mohsen Sazegara is VEVAK's “reformed revolutionary”. A student supporter of Khomeini before the 1979 revolution, Sazegara joined the “imam” on his return from exile and served in the government for a decade before supposedly growing disillusioned.
He formed several reformist newspapers but ran afoul of the hardliners in 2003 and was arrested and imprisoned by VEVAK. Following “hunger strikes”, Sazegara was released for health reasons and permitted to seek treatment abroad. Although critical of the government and particularly of Ahmadinejad and KhameneМ, Sazegara is yet more critical of opposition groups, leaving the impression that he favors internal regime change but sees no one to lead such a movement for the foreseeable future. His bottom line: no one is capable of doing what needs to be done, so we must bide our time. Very slick, but his shadow shows his likely remaining ties to the MOIS.
http://www.ocnus.net/artman/publish/article_27144.shtml
India blocking terrorists from raising funds on stock markets: PM
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India blocking terrorists from raising funds on stock markets: PM
Thu Feb 15, 2:32 PM ET
NEW DELHI (AFP) - Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said his government was
taking measures to stop terror groups from covertly raising funds for
their operations on India's sizzling stock markets.
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"Whatever precautionary measures are needed to deal with this type of
worries that you have, they will be taken and had been taken," premier
Singh said, without elaborating.
"I do not want to contribute to further turbulence in the (Indian)
stock
markets," the premier said on the sidelines of a meeting with his
Italian counterpart Romano Prodi in New Delhi.
The comments came following a warning from Singh's National Security
Advisor M.K. Narayanan that terrorists were investing in the stock
markets to fund their operations.
"Isolated instances of terrorist outfits manipulating the stock markets
to raise funds for their operations have been reported," Narayanan said
in a speech posted online Thursday.
"Stock exchanges in Mumbai and Chennai have, on occasions, reported
that
fictitious or notional companies were engaging in stock market
operations. Some of these companies were later traced to terrorist
outfits."
He called for the lifting of "banking secrecy" and the "corporate veil"
in terrorist-related cases to combat the financing of attacks.
Narayanan first made the comments at a high-level gathering on
international security in Munich on Sunday.
An Indian terrorism expert said that while groups had targeted domestic
stock exchanges in the past, using them to fund attacks appeared to be
a
new tactic.
"Attacking the stock market, dislocating, that has been tried in the
past," Bahukutumbi Raman, former head of the counter-terrorism wing of
India's overseas intelligence service, told AFP Thursday.
"This kind of thing has not come to light yet. It is a new development
apparently."
India accuses nuclear-armed rival Pakistan of fomenting Islamic
militancy in disputed
Kashmir, where the armed rebellion has claimed more than 44,000 lives
since 1989.
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3 College Students Arrested In Sniper Attacks
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WXIA - DAWSON COUNTY, GA, Dawson County's Sheriff lived up to his
promise to have 19-year-old Seth Adam Kirkland of Cumming behind
bars Tuesday. Kirkland was the third person arrested as part of a
trio of teens authorities believe to be connected to more than 30
sniper type shootings in six North Georgia counties in late January.
The other two suspects, 18-year-old Richard Adam Toole of Bowman and
19-year-old Barkley Phillip Hart of Royston, were already in jail.
All three were to appear before a Dawson County Magistrate Judge
later Tuesday. They face multiple counts of aggravated assault in
connection with several sniper attacks on homes, businesses and
vehicles a couple of weeks ago. No one was injured in the shootings,
most of which happened near Dawsonville the weekend of January 20
and 21.Advertisement
Sgt. Tony Wooten of the Dawson County Sheriff's Office said Toole
and Hart were caught after an alert news viewer saw and read stories
about the unsolved shootings. The tipster suggested authorities
check out another similar shooting that led to the teens' arrest in
Franklin County January 31. They were caught in that incident after
supposedly shooting at a vehicle in Madison County. The owner of the
target vehicle chased the teens' SUV into Franklin County where it
hit and killed a deer.
After the wreck, Franklin County authorities found a .22 caliber
rifle and spent shell casings in the teens' SUV. Shells from that
weapon as well as other ballistics tests helped link them to some of
the other sniper shootings in Dawson County. Now they face several
more charges in several counties.
Both Toole and Hart are freshmen at Emmanuel College in Franklin
County. They were supposedly highly recruited for the college
baseball team. No word from the college yet on their current
academic or athletic status.
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Bigotry Monitor: Volume 7, Number 7
(February 16, 2007)
Volume 7, Number 7
Friday, February 16, 2007
BIGOTRY MONITOR
A Weekly Human Rights Newsletter on Antisemitism, Xenophobia, and Religious Persecution in the Former Communist World and Western Europe
EDITOR: CHARLES FENYVESI
(News and Editorial Policy within the sole discretion of the editor)
Published by UCSJ: Union of Councils for Jews in the Former Soviet Union
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RUSSIAN POLICE UNCOVERED 220 EXTREMIST GROUPS. Last year Russian police exposed 220 extremist groups that number some 10,000 people, Interior Minister Rashid Nurgaliyev told a meeting of senior law-enforcement officials on February 9, Itar-Tass reported. “It's very important now to weaken extremists’ efforts to unsettle the situation in the country and to protect youths from being involved in their activity,” Nurgaliyev said. Recently, some youth groups have tended to move from hooliganism to acts of terror, murders, and robberies, the government news agency noted.
TERROR ATTACKS CUT BY HALF, SAYS FSB HEAD. In 2006, the number of terror attacks in Russia was reduced “effectively by half” due to counter-terror measures taken by the federal authorities, National Counter-Terrorism Committee Chairman and Federal Security Service (FSB) Director Nikolai Patrushev said on February 13, according to Interfax. “Systems of control over criminal groups have been disrupted and serious damage has been done to their leadership as a result of special operations,” Patrushev said. “The activities of over 120 members and emissaries of international terror organizations, including 35 ringleaders, were cut short.”
Patrushev announced that more than 900 people were convicted for committing crimes linked to terrorism and extremism.
RACIST ATTACK JOURNALIST ON MOSCOW METRO. Four young men attacked a journalist for the Russian language version of “Newsweek,” according to the national daily “Vremya Novostey” of February 12. Late in the evening of February 9, journalist Aydar Buribaev was taking a metro train when a teenager approached him and asked, “What are you doing here? Russia is for Russians!” A fight ensued, and three of the teenager's friends joined in, breaking Buribaev's nose and causing other injuries. After the fight was over, Buribaev went to the nearest metro police station, but the officers there sent him to another station. By the time he got there and an officer took down a report on the attack, time passed, and the suspects could not be found. Police are investigating the incident as an assault, but are considering making it into a hate crimes investigation.
NEO-NAZIS ATTACK UZBEK. Six neo-Nazis attacked an ethnic Uzbek man in St. Petersburg, according to a February 8 report by the Sova Information-Analytical Center. The attack took place in the morning of February 3 at the “24 Hours” store. The attackers reportedly screamed “Russia for Russians!” as they knocked their victim to the ground and kicked him. The man was taken to the hospital in serious condition. Police are investigating the incident.
MOSCOW MAYOR WANTS TO FINE MIGRANTS’ LANDLORDS. Moscow landlords who rent out apartments to illegal immigrants may soon a face a fine of between 250,000 rubles and 800,000 rubles ($9,500 to $30,000), Mayor Yury Luzhkov said, according to “The Moscow Times” of February 13. “Landlords who rent out their apartments to illegal immigrants should bear the consequences,” Luzhkov warned. He called the measures that the government has recently taken to combat illegal immigration “helpful.” He added that those who rent out apartments to illegal immigrants and those who employ them would shoulder equal responsibility.
In a separate development, Moscow’s City Hall has backpedaled on an earlier decision to reduce the number of foreigners working in the city's markets, “The Moscow Times” reported. Following President Vladimir Putin’s call last year to limit the number of immigrant market traders, Luzhkov signed a bylaw in October reserving 50% of trading stalls in the city's food markets for ethnic Russian farmers. Since a federal law restricting the number of foreigners in markets to 40% came into force last month, the numbers of migrant vendors have dropped. However, as Russian farmers failed to come forward, stalls are left empty and prices have risen.
According to “The Times,” the situation has become bad enough for Vladimir Malyshkov, the City Hall official overseeing the markets, to complain publicly about the departure of about 30,000 immigrant vendors from the city's markets. On February 9, City Hall invited bids to all traders for the 50% of places it previously allocated to Russian farmers, a decision that may put City Hall in conflict with federal migration law. According to the law, as of April 1, foreigners will be banned altogether from trading.
HOPES SLIM FOR TURKMEN REFORM. Minor improvements may take place after the just-completed presidential elections in Turkmenistan, but it is unrealistic to hope for significant changes at the moment, according to two experts on Turkmen politics who spoke this week at Radio Free Europe-Radio Liberty (RFE/RL) headquarters in Prague.
Elsa Vidal, head of the European and post-Soviet countries desk for Reporters Without Borders, called President Gurbanguly Berdymukhammedov a representative of the late President Saparmurat Niyazov's regime who cannot be expected to take a “real democratic stand” unless he finds himself facing “big pressure from the international community.” A former health minister, Berdymukhammedov ran against five candidates in the first multi-candidate presidential election in the country. Vidal argued that Russia, interested in Turkmenistan because of its enormous natural gas reserves, is seeking to ensure its stability, and “therefore [Russia] won't be the country that will promote a real change.” RFE/RL Kazakh Service Director Merkhat Sharipzhan said that Niyazov left behind a country with military structures and the secret service in power, thus “any attempt to introduce any democratic changes would mean end of their rule.”
Vidal pointed out that under Niyazov's rule, even the most loyal of his ministers could end up in jail. Sharipzhan said that, during Niyazov's 12-year rule, at least 131 ministers or deputy ministers “were sacked, jailed or expelled from the country... the fear is still there, people are afraid.” On the subject of the multiple candidacies allowed by the government during this presidential election, Sharipzhan noted that, in his native Kazakhstan, there is always more than one candidate, “but [Nursultan] Nazarbayev always wins.” RFE/RL Turkmen Service director Oguljamal Yazliyeva noted that all six presidential candidates were nominated by the only party that is allowed in the country. Berdymukhammedov received 89.7% of the vote, and the turnout approached 99%.
The vote took place without full-scale international monitoring. But the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe sent a few observers who called the election neither free nor fair, news agencies reported. Spanish Foreign Minister Miguel Moratinos urged Turkmenistan “to commit itself to a process of political reform and democratization.”
YUSHCHENKO VISITS CONCENTRATION CAMP. On February 9, Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko laid a wreath to honor thousands of Ukrainians killed in Flossenburg, a German concentration camp where his father was a prisoner during World War II, the Jewish Telegraphic Agency reported. Yushchenko took with him earth from Babi Yar, the ravine near Kiev where 33,000 Jews were killed in 1941, and handed it over to representatives of the Flossenburg memorial.
SYNAGOGUE ATTACKER RELEASED, VOWS MORE VIOLENCE. The man who entered a Kiev synagogue last year with a large knife and announced his intention to kill the country's chief rabbi has been released from custody, according to a February 13 report by the Russian Jewish web site Antisemitizmu.net. Georgi Dobryansky was never charged with a hate crime despite his confession that he blamed Jews for “genocide” against Ukrainians, but he did serve a one-year sentence that expired this month. After leaving prison, he allegedly called the offices of a Ukrainian Jewish newspaper “Evreysky Obozrevatel” and threatened violence. Vadim Rabinovich, head of the Ukrainian Jewish Congress, was quoted in the report as saying that the Congress has asked for help from the Ministry of Internal Affairs. He warned that if Dobryansky commits another hate crime, “responsibility will rest upon those who set him free.”
‘PANDEMIC OF ANTISEMITISM’ IN FRANCE. French Jews are “living through a pandemic of antisemitism,” said the archbishop of Paris and head of the Roman Catholic Church in France, Andre Vingt-Trois, on his first visit to Israel, according to a February 12 item by the Agence France-Presse. The Jews “know that they are in a serious situation, [and] we are ready to be at their side,” Vingt-Trois said and emphasized the importance of relations between the Catholic Church and Judaism. The archbishop said he intended to convey “a message of hope” during his five-day visit to the Holy Land accompanied by 600 clerics. France is home to the world's third largest Jewish community as well as Europe's largest Muslim population, estimated at five million, the news agency added.
* * * QUOTE OF THE WEEK, HABIT OF BLAMING THE ENEMY * * * “The Kremlin makes too many mistakes and then blames them on the machinations of its enemies, driving Russia farther and farther from the open gates of the free world,” columnist and political talk show hostess Yulia Latynina commented on President Putin’s February 12 Munich speech in “The Moscow Times” of February 14. “[Russia’s] growing international isolation is thus more the result of its leaders' phobias than of any ideological program. Such isolation might help to delay a national catastrophe, but it won't avert it.”
FAREWELL TO ‘STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP’?
Russia’s relations with the United States and the European Union (EU) are skittering on a slippery slope, as President Vladimir Putin is trying to exploit America’s military disaster in Iraq and the discomfort in much of the EU with Bush administration policies and methods. In a February 12 speech at the annual Munich Conference on Security Policy, Putin also served notice that he finds the continuing criticism of his government’s human rights stance intolerable. He called on the West to stop pushing Russia to be more democratic and more respectful of human rights. In a language that recalled the Bolshevik sarcasm of Nikita Khrushchev and Leonid Brezhnev, he declared: “Russia is constantly being taught democracy, and the people who try to teach it don’t want to learn it themselves.” Andrey Kolesnikov of the respected Moscow daily “Kommersant” found Putin’s speech so aggressive toward the United States and NATO that, he wrote, “the only thing missing was a shoe in his hand to bang on the podium with.” Western journalists reporting on the speech tended to be more inhibited in their characterizations.
1. PUTIN’S REBUKE. The conference attracted NATO defense ministers and key members of the legislatures of NATO member states. The first to speak was German Chancellor Angela Merkel who holds EU’s rotating chairmanship. She praised NATO as “a strong expression” of international security and stated that the organization was “on the right path” in Afghanistan, even if it is turning out more difficult than “originally thought.” There are areas where it is impossible to come to an agreement with Russia, she said, looking at Putin who was sitting in the first row and, according to Kolesnikov, “seemed inattentive.” But it would be wrong to say that either one could get along without the other, Merkel added. Putin did not so much as smile, Kolesnikov noted.
To Kolesnikov, it appeared that “Putin had been preparing for this moment his whole political life.” “He wanted to vent his spleen” at the Western world, the Russian reporter wrote. “He undoubtedly knew exactly what he was doing.”
Putin said: “The unipolar world that had been proposed after the Cold War did not take place. However one might embellish this term, in the end it refers to one type of situation, namely one center of authority, one center of force, one center of decision-making. It is a world in which there is one master, one sovereign. And in the end this is pernicious not only for all those within this system, but also for the sovereign itself because it destroys itself from within. And this certainly has nothing in common with democracy. Because, as you know, democracy is the power of the majority in light of the interests and opinions of the minority.”
He vowed that he would defend democracy. “Incidentally, Russia – we – are constantly being taught about democracy,” he said, and, according to Kolesnikov, “looked around with a smile at the absurdity of that situation. No one smiled back.” Putin resumed his high-flying rhetoric: “Unilateral and frequently illegitimate actions have not resolved any problems. Moreover, they have caused new human tragedies and created new centers of tension. Judge for yourselves: wars as well as local and regional conflicts have not diminished… And no less people perish in these conflicts – even more are dying than before. Significantly more, significantly more!”
Then came the part that Putin might have hoped would attract support from Europeans and Americans critical of Bush. “We are seeing a greater and greater disdain for the basic principles of international law,” he continued. “And independent legal norms are, as a matter of fact, coming increasingly closer to one state's legal system. One state and, of course, first and foremost the United States, has overstepped its national borders in every way. This is visible in the economic, political, cultural, and educational policies it imposes on other nations. Well, who likes this? Who is happy about this?”
“Eventually,” Kolesnikov noted, Putin “got to the constructive part of his speech.” “But do we have the means to counter these threats?” Putin asked. “Certainly we do. It is sufficient to look at recent history. Did not our country have a peaceful transition to democracy? Indeed, we witnessed a peaceful transformation of the Soviet regime -- a peaceful transformation! And what a regime! With what number of weapons, including nuclear weapons! Why should we start bombing and shooting now at every available opportunity? Is it the case when without the threat of mutual destruction we do not have enough political culture, respect for democratic values and for the law?”
Kolesnikov observed: ”While criticizing the United States and NATO in apocalyptic terms, the Russian president had not said a single bad word about the EU.”
The Russian reporter continued: “Finally, the president turned his attention to the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe [OSCE] that has always gotten a strong response from him.” Putin charged: “They are trying to transform the OSCE into a vulgar instrument designed to promote the foreign policy interests of one or a group of countries. And this task is also being accomplished by the OSCE's bureaucratic apparatus, which is absolutely not connected with the state founders in any way. Decision-making procedures and the involvement of so-called nongovernmental organizations are tailored for this task. These organizations are formally independent but they are purposefully financed and therefore under control.”
Kolesnikov noted that at the end of his speech Putin received a “weak applause.” Next, he answered questions from the audience. When asked about the multipolarity of the Russian government, Putin replied: “All our actions within Russia, including changing the State Duma election regime, the election regime in the Russian parliament, are designed to strengthen a multi-party system in Russia.” Kolesnikov wrote: “He did not seem concerned about sounding convincing” and added, “A question about human rights in Russia went unanswered.”
Next day, “The Wall Street Journal” commented that Putin “never quite got around to uttering” Anna Politkovskaya’s name. “Instead he pointed out that in the past 18 months, ‘the largest number of journalists were killed in Iraq.’”
2. WHITE HOUSE DISAPPOINTED, BUT SHOWS NO ANGER. The White House response was terse but lacked Putin’s venom. National Security Council Spokesman Gordon Johndroe said: “We are surprised and disappointed with President Putin's comments. His accusations are wrong. We expect to continue cooperation with Russia in areas important to the international community such as counter-terrorism and reducing the spread and threat of weapons of mass destruction.”
At the Munich conference, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates quipped after Putin’s speech: “One Cold War was quite enough.” The former CIA director sounded light-hearted, pointing out that he shared with Putin “a background in the spy business” and that “old intelligence agents have a habit of talking tough.” In contrast, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) was cutting. Referring to tensions over the war in Iraq, Graham said that Putin “did more in a single speech to unite Europe and America than anything we could have done in a decade.”
In its report on the Putin speech, “The Washington Post” quoted “some European diplomats speaking on condition of anonymity,” to the effect that Putin’s attack on the United States was “a preemptive measure to deflect criticism of Russia that has been building in European capitals. In addition to an ongoing crackdown on pro-democracy groups and political opponents, Russia has antagonized some in Europe with its use of energy as a tool of foreign policy.” Another quote, this time attributed, came from NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer who expressed his disappointment with Putin’s remarks. Scheffer said that in conversations with Russian leaders NATO has made clear that the organization’s eastward expansion could not be interpreted as a security threat.
3. BACK TO CONFRONTATION. Writing in “Nezavisimaya Gazeta” of February 12, Yulia Petrovskaya concluded that “Russia and the United States have acknowledged that they no longer perceive each other as strategic partners. At the same time, Moscow and Washington are indicating that they are prepared to take some steps which could return the two powers to a state of confrontation.”
Petrovskaya raised the question if the Kremlin's tough rhetoric will help to strengthen Russia in the international arena. “That's debatable, at best,” she answered. “As of yesterday, none of Moscow's partners had expressed support for the grievances set out by Russian leaders in Munich. On the other hand, some similar concerns were expressed in more diplomatic terms, such as those used by the Germans, the conference hosts.”
Calling Putin’s speech “the latest outburst of emotions,” Petrovskaya noted that it took place against “an anti-Moscow media backdrop: the Western press continues to make much of Russia's energy conflicts with its neighbors, Russia's military cooperation with Iran while the six-party negotiations on Iran's nuclear program remain stalled, the Kremlin's resistance to plans for declaring Kosovo's independence, the Anna Politkovskaya and Alexander Litvinenko murder cases, and measures taken by the Russian authorities against foreign investors.”
4. PUTIN’S TRIUMPHANT TOUR OF ARAB STATES. “Vedomosti” cited Russian experts to the effect that President Putin's “anti-American rhetoric” in Munich may be attributed to “situational reasons.” Alexei Malashenko, an analyst from the Carnegie Moscow Center, said that one purpose behind Putin's tough talk might have been to create a favorable atmosphere for his historic tour of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Qatar.
On February 11 in Saudi Arabia, King and Prime Minister Abdallah bin Abd al-Aziz hailed Putin as “a statesman, a man of peace, a man of justice.” “The Muslim kingdom, a staunch Cold War ally of Washington, rolled out the red carpet for Putin,” Agence France-Press reported. He told businessmen in Riyadh that Russia is a multi-ethnic, multi-religious country where Christians and Muslims coexist peacefully and that Russia has had long experience in promoting cooperation between ethnic groups and religions.
Prince Salman bin Abdul Aziz, Riyadh’s governor and the king's brother, gave Putin a tour of the royal palace and outlined the history of the Saudi state and the role played in it by the founder of Wahhabism. Putin agreed that true Islam has nothing to do with terrorism. “Terrorists are those who distort the principles of Islam,” he said. Prince Salman then introduced to Putin one of his retinue as a descendant of the founder of Wahhabism. According to Interfax, Prince Salman joked, “If Wahhabism means terrorism, a terrorist is standing before you.” Putin replied, “He is a good terrorist. He does not destroy, he builds.”
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Turkish defense industry's domestic production increasing
Murad Bayar, the head of the Undersecretariat for the Defense Industry (SSM), said Turkey's defense industry had risen to significant levels and that a large amount of important equipment would be produced domestically in two or three years.
Turkey's technological capabilities were high and that skilled engineers coming out of universities were talented, said Bayar in an interview with the Anatolia news agency.
“Defense industrialists are now looking for engineers with Ph.D.s," he said. Bayar said the main purpose of the SSM was to meet the necessities of the armed forces and to promote the development of the defense industry. Bayar added that the fundamental aim of the defense industry was to design and develop their own products.
Bayar said that they would start to producing military land equipment. They are partially producing fighter planes and submarines.
“We might be able to produce our own planes, helicopters and submarines in 10 years,” he said. Bayar added that they would continue joint research and development on unmanned aerial vehicles with Pakistan. “They will use electronic optic systems from us and will produce some parts of the aerial vehicle,” said Bayar. He said that Tusaþ Aerospace Industries (TAI) was modernizing Jordan’s F-16s and had signed an agreement with Pakistan to modernize its F-16s.
Bayar said that there were already orders from Malaysia, South Africa and Chile for A400M cargo plane, which is being jointly produced by Turkey and five European countries. They aimed to work with international defense industries jointly by A400M cargo plane projects and JSF projects -- the project carried out by nine countries including US. He added that the design process of JSF planes would cost $40 billion and then the production cost per plane will be $60 million to $70 million. “TAI is designing a new training plane that is as maneuverable as jet fighters,” he said.
Bayar said that their electronic battle system technologies were top level and they replaced all the electronic control systems of their warships and C-130 cargo planes with domestic products. He added that they modernized the Special Forces’ Skorsky helicopters. Bayar added that Leopard tanks, in the past, could not shoot while moving but now with their modernizing studies they can hit the active targets while on the move. He said that they would start to produce the domestic warship this year. They will make the first prototype in the Ýstanbul Naval Dock and then invite private docks for bidding. He also emphasized that all the naval patrol ships were made by domestic firms. “All of these developments were made in one or two years,” he said.
17.02.2007
Ýstanbul Today’s Zaman
http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=103164&bolum=101
Terrorists force stores to close
The terrorist organization Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) forced local businessmen in southeastern Turkey to shut down their stores on the eight anniversary of PKK leader Abdullah Öcalan's capture.
Local businessmen did not open their stores in Hakkari yesterday. All stores -- except bakeries -- on the main streets and industrial sites remained closed throughout the entire day. Meanwhile, amid the elevated security measures, local executives and authorities met with Mayor Salih Yýldýz and Democratic Society Party (DTP) district branch representatives to ease the tension.
Local authorities asked the mayor to call on the public to remain calm and responsible. Some store owners were closed because of the anniversary of Öcalan's capture on Feb. 15, 1999, whereas some others refused to support the protest. Özgen Tamur, son of DTP district branch Chairman Þahabettin Tamur, was shot and wounded during the controversy that erupted between the store owners and the group of DTP members who exerted pressure on those who did not join the protest by keeping their stores open.
17.02.2007
Ýstanbul Today's Zaman
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Our colleagues Anna Andrianova and Zhanna Tolstova are among the hostages on Melnikov Street, and they have stated that there is a mass disinformation campaign against the public ongoing in the media.
Once again, yesterday we were in contact with Anya – she is the only one allowed to use the phone and pass on the terrorists’ demands. The media’s broadcasts, according to her, carry a specific political undertone.
“We are afraid,” she states. “We can only hear the radio, but the receiver is not very loud and we don’t know which station it is. The main thing is that everywhere there is ‘deza’ (disinformation). They all talk about how we’re drinking, how we’re being fed, what we’re being fed, if they are taking us to the toilet or not. Taking us… Well, it’s understandable that these aren’t domestic conditions! But we’re suffering because we’re worried for our lives, not because of the food. It is cynical to discuss the quality of the food in such a situation. One can go a few days without eating, anyway, especially since everything is really so intellectual. But for some reason we say one thing in an interview, and then 15 minutes later the journalists broadcast something on the air that’s completely different! For example, we wrote a message to Putin completely voluntarily, but later we heard that there was some kind of pressure.”
Among the hostages is a doctor, and Anya says that he thinks that people are suffering most of all from the stressful situation.
“Because nothing is being done for our rescue,” Anya pronounces these words quietly into the telephone. “With such background stress people’s chronic health problems get worse: cardio-circulatory, gastro-intestinal, and other problems.”
For now there have been no crisis with high blood pressure, but the people’s blood pressures, naturally, have jumped. There are also some women in the later stages of pregnancy, and for them it is insanely difficult.
“Someone said that they can clearly see ‘Stockholm Syndrome’ in us. Well, do people really not understand that such information can make us seem inadequate in the public’s view, and justify any kind of action in the end?”
The girls say let the people go out into the streets, because the “probability that we are going to get blown up is great, the situation is rather frightful.”
“Really, no one needs war, neither subjectively or objectively. Objectively, because people are destroyed in war. Subjectively, because we could be destroyed. We see that the solution to the problem lies in the Russian people going out and saying that they don’t need this war. Not just the relatives need to do this, but all the rest of the people. Everyone has children. They all have to go to school and kindergarten, but we can never cease worrying about our children, our relatives, and our loved ones!”
Anya and Zhanna also said that if Masha Shkolnikova not made contact, then the inaction of our special services would have stopped a bit earlier:
“We are dying of fright. From inaction. We can’t sleep. But the media reports that some of us our being beaten, that some are fed and some are not fed, that there are a thousand of us, that there are five hundred. It’s obvious that they want to minimize us, and to talk about harsh treatment so that they can supposedly save us from death. The patience of these people can come to an end, and they’ll take things all the way.
“It was awful on the first night, but it got a little easier later – a faint glimmer of hope flashed by. But the journalists have once again started to lie, and so that hope has faded. That’s how it is, all the time…
“The situation is very complicated. Colleagues! If you can’t help us, well, at least don’t do anything stupid!”
http://echo.msk.ru/interview/20120/
SKOPTSOVA: I don’t know, they've released some gas… All the people are sitting in the hall, we’re asking that it won’t be like… Anyway we’re hoping it’s not going to be like the Kursk, not there… Maybe I’ll give you Anya…
STEPANENKO: Natash, she called us.
ANDRIANOVA: This is Anya. I’ve an impression that the soldiers have begun… Guys, don’t leave us hanging, if there’s a chance, if you can do it, we beg you…
STEPANENKO: Ann, we’re trying, can you explain what you’re feeling? Is it tear gas? What kind of gas is it?
ANDRIANOVA: I don’t know what kind of gas it is, but I see a reaction… These people don’t want to kill the good guys and bad guys, but I think our soldiers have begun something… I don’t think we’re going to get out of here alive. I think this is going to end badly…
STEPANENKO: Anya, can you tell us what kind of gas it is? Is it tear gas? What’s happening to the people? Can you see it? Are you feeling it?
ANDRIANOVA: Guys, I beg… I don’t know. We can see, we can feel… We’re breathing through hankies, our boys are doing something… (Shooting is audible for 2-3 seconds.) Oh, Lord!!! (Pause) Can you hear us?
STEPANENKO: Yes.
ANDRIANOVA: Now we’re all going to get blown to Hell. Well, our boys started it…
STEPANENKO: What was all the shooting just now?
ANDRIANOVA: I don’t know. I’m sitting with someone’s back in my face and I just don’t know… Lord, just a little while ago we were sitting and watching NTV and celebrating... It started outside. Apparently our government made the decision that no one is to make it out of here alive… (Only the sound of gunshots audible for the next 2-3 minutes)
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Hope you're taking care of yourself.
Blessings,
Danish teenager sentenced to 7 years in Bosnia-linked terror plot
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/02/15/europe/EU-GEN-Denmark-Terror-Trial.php
Danish teenager sentenced to 7 years in Bosnia-linked terror plot
The Associated Press
Published: February 15, 2007
COPENHAGEN, Denmark: A Danish court on Thursday convicted a 17-year-old
man of terror charges and sentenced him to seven years in prison for
involvement in a botched plot to blow up a target in Europe.
Three other defendants in the case were cleared of offenses.
The court found Abdul Basit Abu Lifa guilty of involvement in a terror
plot uncovered in Bosnia in October 2005 with the arrest of two men
allegedly preparing to carry out a terror attack.
The pair, Swedish national Mirsad Bektasevic and Abdulkadir Cesur, a
Turk living in Denmark, were convicted by a Bosnian court last month of
planning an attack aimed at forcing foreign troops to pull out of Iraq
and Afghanistan. The exact target of the plot remains unclear.
In the Danish case, police arrested Abu-Lifa and the three other
defendants on Oct. 27, 2005, after a tip from the Bosnian police.
Investigators used records of mobile phone calls and Internet chats to
link the defendants in Denmark to the Bosnian plot.
Today in Europe
Trial opens in Madrid train bombings
Economics aide quits, dealing Royal a blow
After Utah mall deaths, Bosnians fear backlash
A jury in the Eastern High Court said Thursday there was enough
evidence
to prove that all four defendants were involved in the plot, but the
three-judge panel disagreed and overturned the verdicts against all but
Abu-Lifa.
Under Danish law, judges have the right to overturn any decision made
by
the jury.
"It is very, very rare that this happens," said Thorkild Hoeyer, the
defense attorney for one of the freed defendants, Elias Ibn Hsain.
Prosecutors had demanded at least eight years in prison for Abu-Lifa, a
Danish citizen of Palestinian descent, but the judges handed him a
seven-year sentence, citing his young age.
Imad Ali Jaloud, who prosecutors said was the leader of the group, was
kissed and hugged by family members and friends outside the court room.
He refused to speak to media as he left.
Another acquitted defendant, Adnan Avdic, cried quietly inside the
packed courtroom after it became clear he would be released.
Abu-Lifa's lawyer, Anders Boelskifte, said they had not yet decided
whether to appeal against the ruling.
[Interesting blog, Marc Rich, the Utah jihadi, and much more, up to date and history ...granny]
http://once-upon-a-time-in-the-west.blogspot.com/index.html
Grey Terror File: Quebec police officer injured by car bomb; Canadian media fail to draw link to new FLQ cell's threat for Feb. 15
Sherbrooke, the city where this incident is located, is one of Quebec's larger urban areas, apart from Montreal and Quebec City. The Canadian media is not currently drawing any connection between the blast and the new Front de libération du Québec cell that is supposedly active, and which in several letters over the past four months treatened to initiate a bombing campaign today in the English-speaking districts of Montreal.
Please note the new link in this blogsite's right column to the Global Incident Map, which updates terrorist and other suspicious incidents throughout the world on an hourly basis. The founders of TerroristWarning.com are responsible for this worthwhile project.
Quebec police officer injured after car bomb destroys his van
Canadian Press
Published: Thursday, February 15, 2007
SHERBROOKE, Que. (CP) - A bomb destroyed a city police van and injured an officer on a downtown street Wednesday.
The explosion occurred after the officer, who parked the van and walked away for a few minutes, returned to his vehicle, a news conference was told.
The blast was strong enough to blow out the windows of a doughnut shop and damage several vehicles parked nearby.
Sherbrooke police Chief Gaetan Labbe said explosives were found at the scene and Quebec provincial police are investigating.
Despite the force of the explosion, the officer was only slightly injured and was treated for shock in hospital, said Sherbrooke police spokeswoman Maryse Boulanger.
Police say they are unsure whether the bomb targeted the officer in particular or the police force in general.
They had no immediate motive for the bombing.
The rest of the Sherbrooke force's vehicles were inspected as a preventive measure, Boulanger said.
Source: Canada.com
posted by Perilous Times at 12:14 PM 2 comments
[these are on the side bar and I need to check them out]
http://once-upon-a-time-in-the-west.blogspot.com/index.html
[live urls at link]
Soviet Bloc Youth Organizations
Communist Youth Organizations
Belarusian Republican Youth Union ("ex"-Belarus Section, old CPSU Komsomol, 2002)
Communist Youth Union of the Czech Republic ("banned" 2006)
Free German Youth ("ex"-GDR, "banned" 1990)
Red Youth Vanguard (AKM, restored CPSU Komsomol)
Revolutionary Komsomol (RCWP-RPC, "banned")
Russian Union of Youth ("ex"-Russian Section, old CPSU Komsomol, 1990)
Union of Communist Youth of the Russian Federation (SKMRF; CPRF Komsomol, 1994)
United Youth League (SKMRF-Za Rodina, 2006)
World Federation of Democratic Youth (Budapest)
Za Rodina
Pro-Putin Youth Organizations
Democratic Anti-Fascist Youth Movement "Nashi" (Surkov, Yakimenko, 2005)
Walking Together (Surkov, Yakimenko, 2000)
Young Guard (United Russia)
Young Russia
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[this is in the middle of page, with photo of threat note]
In November 2006 we covered the reemergence of the Front de libération du Québec (FLQ), which has released yet another letter threatening to bomb sites in the English-speaking districts of Montreal this month and in March:
Letters threaten FLQ attacks in Montreal
Threats to bomb crowded areas in largely English-speaking western neighbourhoods
Last Updated: Friday, January 19, 2007 11:34 AM ET
The Canadian Press
An RCMP spokesman says the force is taking "very seriously" a recent threatening letter signed by a group claiming to be a new cell of the FLQ, a Quebec militant group active in the 1960s and 1970s.
The letter, dated Jan. 15, says "strategic targets of importance" will be targeted in the western, largely English-speaking part of Montreal between Feb. 15 and March 15.
"We will especially target traffic on main highways," says the letter.
The letter says the plan of attack is designed "for maximum impact" and warns "it's possible there will be injuries and deaths."
The letter adds that "a combination of vehicles, letter bombs, remote-control explosive devices will be used and most of these devices are already in place."
RCMP Cpl. Luc Bessette said Thursday that businesses that don't conform to Quebec's French-language sign law were also threatened.
Bessette said the RCMP is not dismissing the threats.
"Anything that has to do with the integrity and security of our citizens is always taken seriously," Bessette said.
The letter was sent to Bob Benedetti, described in the letter as the "loudmouth" mayor of the Montreal suburb of Beaconsfield, as well as Quebec Premier Jean Charest and French President Jacques Chirac. It also said Benedetti was "designated to distribute the message to his colleagues" in more than a dozen predominantly anglophone communities.
The letter, which is signed: "FLQ, Camille-Laurin Cell," is the second of its kind. The first one was received on Nov. 15, 2006.
Camille Laurin was a Parti Québécois cabinet minister responsible for the province's language law in the 1970s.
The Front de libération du Québec (Quebec Liberation Front) was a pro-sovereignty militant group that carried out a campaign of bombings in the 1960s and sparked the 1970 October Crisis when a British diplomat was kidnapped and then Quebec's labour minister, Pierre Laporte, was kidnapped and later killed.
No sign that threats could be carried out: RCMP
The RCMP stressed there was no indication those responsible for the letter could carry out their threats.
"So far we have no indication they can do what they're saying," Bessette added.
The Integrated National Security Enforcement Team, which includes Montreal police, provincial police, the RCMP and Canadian Security Intelligence Service agents, have been investigating since mid-November.
Benedetti said his staff were able to extract the letter from the mail and send it to police unopened.
"My staff were able to recognize it in the mail based on information the RCMP gave us regarding the first letter in November," Benedetti said.
Source: CBC News
posted by Perilous Times at 9:49
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Spetsnaz are already operating in the USA and Canada under various false business fronts like Russian martial art schools, not to mention stealing across the USA-Canada border in full combat gear, as in the summer 2003 incident reported by Michelle Malkin.
This is not the first time suspicious foreign nationals have been caught around the Maine National Guard site. In June, according to the Border Patrol, a Humvee was stolen from the Limestone facility. While searching for the missing vehicle, agents apprehended a Russian illegal alien nearby. He had a valid New York State commercial driver's license allowing him to haul hazardous materials and a pass that granted him access to sea ports along the East Coast -- including high-level security bonded customs areas. Also this summer, two other Russian nationals, dressed in military battle dress uniforms, were stopped by Canadian authorities as they attempted to enter the U.S. at an unguarded crossing approximately 20 miles south of Limestone.
Consider the following World War Four scenario: Mexico assembles Russian military helicopters. Perfect cover for Russian war preps against USA established. Instead of shipping military helicopters back to Russia, Spetsnaz covertly prepare the helicopters for a northward flight ala Red Dawn, post-nuke blitz.
posted by Perilous Times at 12:20 PM
Thanks for the ping!
[small interesting blog]
http://halldor2.wordpress.com/
Trepashkin Interview
February 15th, 2007
On March 9, Mikhail Trepashkin’s appeal will be heard by a court in Nizhny Tagil (Sverdlovsk Oblast). Trepashkin, a former FSB official who is serving a 4-year jail sentence for allegedly disclosing state secrets, and who is a witness of major importance in the Litvinenko poisoning case, has given an interview to The New Times in which he describes how the FSB proposed that he take part in the liquidation of Litvinenko. Newsru.com has published some excerpts from the interview. Asked why the special services chose such a complicated plan for eliminating Litvinenko, Trepashkin replies [my tr.]:
I think it was carelessness in the work of the agents who carried out the murder, and also the organizer’s intention to kill the agents along with Litvinenko, and also Litvinenko’s family, Berezovsky and Zakayev (while they were at it). It’s possible that the agents didn’t know about the possible consequences for themselves and the environment. I think they calculated that the cause of death would never be precisely established as polonium.
You can draw your own conclusions. But I will add the following. Back in 2001, when I telephoned Litvinenko in London for the first time on Shebalin’s request (on behalf of the FSB, as he explained), I asked him if he was going to write a new book, where he was working and with whom, and he replied that he had a job as a postman in the mornings. Then, some time later, Shebalin expressed the view that it would be a good thing to send him (Litvinenko) a letter containing powder. There was a lot being written about such letters in the States at the time.
(via Marius)
An excellent blog, by a fellow Freeper:
http://russophobe.blogspot.com/
Planning Seen in Iraqi Attacks on U.S. Copters
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/18/world/middleeast/18helicopter.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Planning Seen in Iraqi Attacks on U.S. Copters
By MICHAEL R. GORDON and DAVID S. CLOUD
Published: February 18, 2007
WASHINGTON, Feb. 17 — Documents captured from Iraqi insurgents indicate
that some of the recent fatal attacks against American helicopters are
a result of a carefully planned strategy to focus on downing coalition
aircraft, one that American officials say has been carried out by
mounting coordinated assaults with machine guns, rockets and surface-to-air
missiles.
The documents, said to have been drafted by Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia,
show that the militants were preparing to “concentrate on the air force.”
The contents of the documents are described in an American intelligence
report that was reviewed by The New York Times.
Seized near Baghdad, the documents reflect the insurgents’ military
preparations from late last year, including plans for attacking aircraft
using a variety of weapons.
Officials say they are a fresh indication that the United States is
facing an array of “adaptive” adversaries in Iraq, enemies who are likely
to step up their attacks as American forces expand their efforts to
secure Baghdad, the Iraqi capital.
“Attacks on coalition aircraft probably will increase if helicopter
missions expand during the latest phase of the Baghdad Security Plan or if
insurgents seek to emulate their recent successes,” notes the
intelligence report, which analyzes the recent helicopter crashes.
The American military has said that seven helicopters have been downed
since Jan. 20, a figure that exceeds the total number of coalition
aircraft shot down in 2006.
continues...........
ANDRIANOVA: I don’t know. I’m sitting with someone’s back in my face and I just don’t know… Lord, just a little while ago we were sitting and watching NTV and celebrating... It started outside. Apparently our government made the decision that no one is to make it out of here alive… (Only the sound of gunshots audible for the next 2-3 minutes)
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WHY?
It was the same at Beslan.
Just how much tinfoil do I need to don, to keep what I find from exploding?
I notice that our newspeople also learned their lessons well from the 'party', sounds the same.
To try and feel what they were feeling, during this talk, is beyond the human mind, it is good that God gives us a little something extra when we are past our breaking point.
The insight in your post is beyond bearing.
Thank you for posting this, we need to know what is coming, as I honestly think that with the fools we have calling the shots, we will soon loose our wonderfully trained Military and wind up with a pelosi trained force. Of course, I should say "in my opinion".............
Thanks, was doing some heavy thinking about the value of what i do, as this thread needs to stop around the 5000 post mark.
The posts look much better on the Anti-Mullah site.
One little hint, Dr. Bill Wattenberg, says that if you have been contaminated with nuclear type particles, that you must seal the clothes you are wearing and dispose of them, he also says to use a good laundry detergent for a shower and to wash the hair well with it.
after that is done, clean clothes and try to seal the cracks in the house and stay indoors.
He is on the air right now at kgo.com, you can listen to him on the computer.........for 21 hours, until the next program starts at 10 pm Sunday night.
His program is about science, LOL, unless you ask about politics.
I am glad that you could use the posts.
Have you caught all the air plane windshields that have cracked? I have posted several in the past couple weeks and now a large amount, [posted earlier]..odd and odder....
I have heard every excuse/reason that one can imagine, in the past 24 hours.
Often, I forget, that what I learned years ago, may not be true today, but in the old days, few men would attempt to replace a car windshield, due to the fact that if you got the holding in screws too tight, it would cause the new window to crack.
I am constantly amazed at how easy it would be to bring a plane down, for the cost of a 99 cent screwdriver.
SKOPTSOVA: I don’t know, they've released some gas… All the people are sitting in the hall, we’re asking that it won’t be like… Anyway we’re hoping it’s not going to be like the Kursk, not there… Maybe I’ll give you Anya… <<
What does she mean "not going to be like the Kursk"?
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