Pat Tillman's Legacy(Nation Magazine)

The Nation magazine ^ | October 20. 2006 | Kevin Tillman

[EveningStar]

So all I can do is offer him condolences for his loss, relate to his justifiable anger over the lies told about his brother's loss, and point out how the points he makes in this piece are horribly mistaken.

Nice summation. It's sad that he's become a tool of the Left.

[EveningStar]

I couldn't have said it better. Thanks, Anna.

[Feiny]

Just woke up & read your posts.

WAYR?

[Dane]

Anna, your reply #54 is so "hot", just ask feinswines.

[Beowulf]

... a whiny footnote to diminish the heroic memory of An American Patriot.

[IslandJeff]

Paging Chris Hitchens. Say, what's the difference between "The Nation" and "Atlantic Monthly"? I get them mixed up, admittedly.

[EveningStar]

The September 25, 2005 edition of the San Francisco Chronicle newspaper reported that Tillman held views which were critical of the Iraq war and did not support President Bush's re-election. According to Tillman's mother, a friend of Tillman had arranged a meeting with Noam Chomsky, to take place after his return from Afghanistan. Chomsky confirmed this. The article also reported that Tillman urged a soldier in his platoon to vote for John Kerry in the 2004 U.S. Presidential election.

In 2006, Tillman's brother Kevin condemned "the illegal invasion" of Iraq and the "incompetent, narcissistic, virtueless, vacuous, malicious criminals ... in charge of this country." Noting that the midterm election would take place the day after Pat's birthday, he expressed the hope that people would "take action".

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What's next? A conspiracy plot? Bush learns of Tillman's anti-war views and orders his assassination?

[Feiny]

AnnaZ is so hot

Dane is snot

[peeps36]

He sounds a lot like the leftist who laughed at Pat's death and said he got what he deserved.The military screwed up real bad with Pat's death but nobody mocked it more than Ted Rall and the Chomsky loving liberals.

[EveningStar]

Rall changed his mind and admitted he was mistaken after Tillman shifted from being right wing poster child to a left wing poster child.

[Albertafriend]

Yes he does have the right to write whatever he pleases. However he didn't just wake up a couple of days ago and decide that now I'm hurting so much I just have to sit down and vent my anguished feelings two weeks before a critical election. This piece was bought by truthdig.com or org, whose co-founder is ex-LA Times columnist,Robert Scheer, a far lefty that Discover the Network says is connected to George Soros and in all likelihood is getting money from Soros. This is just another attempt to influence the election by bringing up bad feelings about the Army and against the war. This is not grief speaking. This is the voiice of code pink and every piece of far left, liberal, communist trash that wants to blame America and acts like the real enemy either doesn't exist or is the victim. I thank him and his brother that they had the courage to sign up and fight and I'm sorry that Pat died in awful circumstances but I have no respect for anyone that willingly sells himself to express this kind of garbage.

[Albertafriend]

Check out this link:

http://www.pastpeak.com/archives/2005/10/friendly_fire.htm

Unfortunately, it's true and I was very disdappointed when I found this out.

[Cannoneer No. 4]

ping

[BFM]

I'll take a single Chomsky readin' Pat Tillman over a hundred Coulter readin' paper tigers any day of the week.

Bad news for you, buckwheat. There's a LOT more servicemen and women reading Coulter than Chomsky, any day.

The simple fact is that leftists are, as a group, less patriotic that conservatives. Leftists are far less likely to serve in the armed forces that those from the right.

The fact is, you'd have to search through the posessions of a lot of servicemember's copies of Coulter to even find a Chomsky.

Take them facts to bank, bucky.

[defenderSD]

There's an insinuation in that article from The Nation that the Army killed Tillman to prevent him from speaking out with Chomsky. I strongly doubt that the US army shot Tillman intentionally. The article says that Pat's mother confirms that this meeting with Chomsky was going to occur, but I have doubts about that statement in the article. Tillman was a free thinker but he wasn't a trouble-maker or a dissident in his past. He was a disciplined man who worked well within his college and professional football teams and I think he was unlikely to be planning any public statements with Chomsky. I also doubt that if he had set up a meeting with Chomsky, he would have told his mother about that meeting. I would think that a meeting like that wouldn't be important enough to bring up in a conversation with his parents. I'd like to hear his mother confirm that information in person.

Finally, even if he had set up a meeting with Chomsky and the Army knew about it, I doubt that the Army would have considered such a meeting to be a big problem for their mission in Iraq. I have heard stories about soldiers being shot by their commanders in Vietnam for disobeying an order, but I strongly doubt that Tillman was intentionally shot by any US soldiers.

[soldier143]

**Bad news for you, buckwheat. There's a LOT more servicemen and women reading Coulter than Chomsky, any day. **

You misunderstand what he is saying (deliberately?)
We in the military are not paper tigers and that's his point. We in the military signed up, many of us volunteering for duty in Iraq or Afghanistan, volunteering to extend our tours or go on multiple tours.

A paper tiger conversely is some chest beater who lacks the conviction to make the sacrifice, talks the Coulter talk but isn't willing to walk it. Still entitled to their opinion but I often raise an eyebrow when they engage me in conversation, telling me of their support for the war and then I note they are in their 20's or 30's but "too busy" to go downrange with the rest of us.

If you are in this latter category and we meet face to face, be prepared for me to embarass and shame you.

[LibertyGirl77]

Don't be crass. This is a family website.