Family Free-Riders (Childless adults are economic free riders)

Chicago Boyz ^ | March 03, 2006 | Shannon Love

[BADROTOFINGER]

You have a pretty slick argument. Use an illegal ponzi scheme like social security (which denies us our right to our property) as a weapon in an argument to deny others their right to vote. You sir are the fascist...JFK

[FriendDownUnder]

I'm with you, JRBC. It's too complex an issue for these sort of blanket statements.

Besides, many unmarried welfare mothers vote Democrat. Did these FReepers intend that the welfare moms, who've "gone forth and been fruitful", get to vote and intelligent women like ourselves do not?

*zips lip and moves away to fume about this one, more quietly*

[Allegra]

There is a Judge, madame, but it ain't me.

Oh, you don't have to tell me that.

It just seems you were being a tad judgmental, considering you really don't know why someone is childless.

It's not always by choice.

And even if it is, that's between the person and God and really not for others to judge.

Unless you're perfect, of course. And I've never met any human yet who is.

[najida]

Exactly!

It's cruel enough to lose your fertility to illness...or to find that you have to choose caring for someone else instead of a child or well, the twists and turns that life takes. But to have others act like you're some kind of monster because you don't have kids just pours salt on a never healing wound.

Many childless folks would have loved to have had children and would have made good parents. But we also believe that kids need a stable home, two parents etc. So we try to get one and two ironed out first, after fertility of course.

Again, I've had a good life. I'm a great Aunt, an improving 'zookeeper' and on my way to becoming a relatively decent human being. I wish the same for everyone else :)

[kaylar]

It's somewhat comforting to see that these threads consistenly attract hundreds and hundreds of posts. It demonstrates that there's a vast reservoir of individuals who feel extremely defensive about the issue and need to have their lifestyle choices affirmed and reaffirmed by others of a like mind. A certain sign of uncertainty.

And I suppose conservatives are defensive and uncertain of their ideology since they need to read and post at conservative sites? Have THEIR beliefs reaffirmed by the hundreds of thousands of likeminded posters and lurkers of which FR boasts?

People are sick of being demonized if they don't have children, and now we are finally striking back and defending ourselves against people like you .

[numberonepal]

Oh, but I'll never know unless I try.

Now THAT sounds like a proposition.

[Tijeras_Slim]

I can't believe this is still going.

[Allegra]

The Thread.

That Won't.

DIE.

;-)

[70times7]

you are really talkin' nasty to go after Dallas and Yankee fans. What, are you trying to start a civil war?

Well, I suppose there are a few yankee fans here on FR, and also a few more Cowboys fans. But it takes an extra special level of dumb to be a fan of both. I'd expect that the only folks here qualified to get riled don't last long before the viking kitties chow down. And I don't post over on the DU... ;>)

PS: I do occasionally post on crevo threads, so it's not like I can't stand being singed (hehehe).

[FriendDownUnder]

I've been enjoying these posts far more than anything else, today. Consider yourself cheered loudly from the Southern Hemisphere!

[Allegra]

I've been enjoying these posts far more than anything else, today. Consider yourself cheered loudly from the Southern Hemisphere!

LOL - this thread kept me up past my bedtime last night. (I'm several hours ahead of the U.S. time zones.) But we sure had fun tweaking the you-need-to-have-kids-to-validate-yourself-fascists.

[Allegra]

Well, I suppose there are a few yankee fans here on FR, and also a few more Cowboys fans. But it takes an extra special level of dumb to be a fan of both.

{giggle}

[70times7]

I made an attractive texan lady laugh enough to post it? Cool. You have made my day.

[steve-b]

Are those quotes from the intro he wrote to Madison Grant's The Passing Of The Great Race, perchance?

[Scourge of God]

BUMP!

Keeping it alive.

[Antoninus]

It just seems you were being a tad judgmental, considering you really don't know why someone is childless. It's not always by choice.

Find me one place where I condemned someone who was childless because of biological sterility. You won't so don't bother looking.

There are noble reasons to remain childless--devoting your life to God, or a military career, for example. These are selfless acts. It is only those who remain childless for the pursuit of material goods, the luxury life, political power, or laziness that I find fault with.

And even if it is, that's between the person and God and really not for others to judge.

I'm not a relativist. And God tends to get irked when someone calls evil good and no one stands up to correct them. On my day of judgement, when I stand before God, I know that I will be faulted if I remained silent when I heard someone praise evil and denounce good. I would much rather incur your censure in this life than His in the next.

[Antoninus]

People are sick of being demonized if they don't have children, and now we are finally striking back and defending ourselves against people like you.

Strike back at me all you want. Just make sure to thank my children when they're taking care of you in your old age.

[linda_22003]

"There are noble reasons to remain childless--devoting your life to God, or a military career, for example. These are selfless acts. It is only those who remain childless for the pursuit of material goods, the luxury life, political power, or laziness that I find fault with."

And those are the only two possible scenarios? There's nothing in between? I learn so much around here.

[Allegra]

I would much rather incur your censure in this life than His in the next.

And I would much rather come under His judgment than under yours. Yours matters not a whit to me.

[Antoninus]

And those are the only two possible scenarios? There's nothing in between?

When listing examples, it's not necessary to give an exhaustive list. Don't you fit into either of those categories?