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Experts plan to exhume Shakespeare's body
icBirmingham ^ | Nov 1, 2005 | Name not given

Posted on 11/02/2005 7:30:05 PM PST by SpringheelJack

Controversial plans to dig up William Shakespeare's grave, to find out whether he was murdered by his son-in-law, have been revealed by American scientists.

The US experts, who are convinced the Bard's death was anything but natural, are hoping to be granted permission by his descendants to exhume his body.

Shakespeare died on his birthday on April 23, 1616, and was buried two days later at Stratford-upon-Avon's Holy Trinity Church.

His grave has remained untouched for more than 350 years, but now American pathologists want to disturb his resting place, in spite of warnings of a curse on Shakespeare's tomb if anyone tries to disturb his bones.

They are convinced scientific advances including DNA testing will end years of speculation about Shakespeare being murdered.

Professor James Starrs, of George Washington University in the US, said: " Shakespeare has made it clear that there is no justification for removing his bones. However, there is some consideration of foul play and the possibility that we could positively identify his body, so permission for this project becomes easier to find."

(Excerpt) Read more at icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk ...


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To: SpringheelJack
Thank you, that's interesting. I admittedly know very little about the period. Just trying to stir the pot, you see. :-)
41 posted on 11/02/2005 9:47:03 PM PST by starbase (Seasons change.)
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To: SpringheelJack
Controversial plans to dig up William Shakespeare's grave, to find out whether he was murdered by his son-in-law, have been revealed by American scientists.

It sounds like a job for this team...

-PJ

42 posted on 11/02/2005 9:52:14 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I am totally convinced that the Duke of Buckingham DID administer a questionable physic to James I. This is the article of his impeachment generally dismissed as nuts. Let's dig him up!


43 posted on 11/02/2005 10:16:11 PM PST by Hayley
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To: starbase

Thanks for the useful summary of the question of authorship. It's easy to call the doubters "cranks," but they have some powerful arguments, particularly for Oxford. If I were going to dig up any bodies I'd start with his, not that of the guy who didn't leave even a pen to anybody in his will.


44 posted on 11/03/2005 5:00:17 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

They tried to dig up Beethoven's body, but when they got down there, he told them, "Don't bother me, I'm decomposing."


45 posted on 11/03/2005 5:17:35 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Rimshot.)
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To: SpringheelJack

Shakespeare did not write Shakespeare. It was another man with the same name.


46 posted on 11/03/2005 5:23:04 AM PST by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: SpringheelJack

Yes, Pope Formosus (891-896), who was dug up some months after his death, tried and found guilty, and then his corpse was thrown into the Tiber (but later retrieved and reburied). The whole farce backfired on Pope Stephen VII (VI) who perpetrated it.


47 posted on 11/03/2005 6:53:13 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Graymatter
It's easy to call the doubters "cranks," but they have some powerful arguments, particularly for Oxford.

That's funny, seeing as there is literally not one shred of evidence that Shakespeare was somebody's fake name.

If I were going to dig up any bodies I'd start with his, not that of the guy who didn't leave even a pen to anybody in his will.

We have wills from fourteen other playwrights besides Shakespeare. Only three mention books. People who put forth this lack of detail like it means anything just show their ignorance of the period. http://shakespeareauthorship.com/shaxwill.html

48 posted on 11/03/2005 8:20:32 AM PST by SpringheelJack
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To: SpringheelJack

You toss off schoolyard argument, such as "you're ignorant!" and "you're a crank!" and you expect to be taken seriously on a forum like FR? Come now, give us rational argument or pipe down.
And as for "Sir Thomas More," tell us more about that Shakespeare authorship, and what became of the other authors.


49 posted on 11/03/2005 8:38:54 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: SpringheelJack

After they prove it, Shakespeare's son-in-law's body must be exhumed to stand trial.. Maybe we could exhume Johnnie Cochrane to represent him.


50 posted on 11/03/2005 8:44:38 AM PST by Sloth (You being wrong & me being closed-minded are not the same thing, nor are they mutually exclusive.)
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To: Graymatter
You toss off schoolyard argument, such as "you're ignorant!" and "you're a crank!" and you expect to be taken seriously on a forum like FR? Come now, give us rational argument or pipe down.

I already shot down your will comment with facts you can verify, and I'm still waiting to hear the "powerful arguments" for Oxford's authorship that you alluded to. My guess is that you'll avoid bringing them up again, as here.

And as for "Sir Thomas More," tell us more about that Shakespeare authorship, and what became of the other authors.

Consensus right now is that the other hands in it were Anthony Munday, Henry Chettle, Thomas Heywood, and Thomas Dekker. The arguments for Shakespeare's authorship of the Ill May Day scene are based on style, a unique spelling of one word paralleled only in a couple of his quartos, and consistency of the handwriting with his known signatures.

51 posted on 11/03/2005 8:50:50 AM PST by SpringheelJack
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To: SpringheelJack

We are on different frequencies, Jack. I have not even taken a position on the authorship, yet you are reflexively attacking me and thus trying to maneuver me into taking one.
Anyone with internet access can explore the authorship question and the powerful arguments I referred to. I haven't the time or inclination to enlighten anyone on this issue; I mentioned the arguments in order to encourage others to investigate.
When I do write to instruct, I get paid for it very well. Furthermore, your tone is obnoxious, and I don't engage in discussions on that level at any price.
You may have the last word. Noblesse oblige. ;)


52 posted on 11/03/2005 11:52:42 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: Verginius Rufus

They could always behead him like Oliver Cromwell.


53 posted on 11/03/2005 11:58:18 AM PST by Serb5150 (4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42)
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To: Charles Henrickson

You know what they found on Beethoven's piano bench after he died?


...His last movement!


54 posted on 11/03/2005 2:47:07 PM PST by ducdriver ("Impartiality is a pompous name for indifference, which is an elegant name for ignorance." GKC)
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To: Graymatter
We are on different frequencies, Jack. I have not even taken a position on the authorship, yet you are reflexively attacking me and thus trying to maneuver me into taking one.

Whatever, Graymatter. You claimed there are "powerful arguments" for Oxford's candidacy and I'd be delighted to know what you think they are. I'm well familiar with the huddled mass of tin foil out there claiming Shakespeare was somebody else, and I know perfectly well that there is no evidence for any of it, which is why I ask. Maybe you have some new discovery.

When I do write to instruct, I get paid for it very well. Furthermore, your tone is obnoxious, and I don't engage in discussions on that level at any price.

What's obnoxious are people trying to steal credit for another man's lifetime of achievements and give it to someone else, without a single piece of evidence to warrant it.

55 posted on 11/03/2005 4:47:59 PM PST by SpringheelJack
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To: SpringheelJack

Of all these various crackpot theories about the true authorship of Shakespeare's plays, there one thing I never got; a convincing reason as to why someone would want Shakespeare take credit for their work. It would have been possible to submit plays anonymously if they didn't want to be associated with the theatre or whatever.


56 posted on 11/03/2005 5:37:06 PM PST by Welsh Rabbit
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To: Welsh Rabbit
Of all these various crackpot theories about the true authorship of Shakespeare's plays, there one thing I never got; a convincing reason as to why someone would want Shakespeare take credit for their work. It would have been possible to submit plays anonymously if they didn't want to be associated with the theatre or whatever.

I don't even think that much would be necessary. Several nobles wrote plays that were just meant to be read. Sir Fulke Greville, the Countess of Pembroke, and the Earl of Stirling are three I can instantly think of.

57 posted on 11/03/2005 6:00:35 PM PST by SpringheelJack
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To: SpringheelJack

Yeah, there's really no credible reason why someone would not take credit for Shakespeare's plays.


58 posted on 11/03/2005 6:24:43 PM PST by Welsh Rabbit
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59 posted on 02/12/2006 9:26:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Islam is medieval fascism, and the Koran is a medieval Mein Kampf.)
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