Posted on 06/01/2005 8:07:19 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
Yes Cindie, JHH's policy as shown online regarding inability to pay does seem contradicted by the estimate they posted on CU. What will be interesting to see (and I expect they will be posted eventually) are the individual billing statements from the different deparments for actual costs (physician/ hospital/ anesthesiologist/ pharmaceuticals/ etc...). But those usually take time. It seems very odd to me that any hospital would expect pre-payment-- however, I'm insured & have great credit. Maybe they do it differently for others-- because remember, if Andy didn't get treatment at JHH-- he had options here in Seattle-- so it's not the same as them throwing him into the street to die-- they would merely refer him to the "free" (government/ taxpayer provided) hospital that he didn't want to go to.
Beandog-- I didn't know it was "Johns" Hopkins & not "John" Hopkins until this whole situation came up-- and I worked at a bank for about 5 years. I assure you that slightly mispelling the name of a hospital would in NO WAY affect the clearing of the check. People clinging onto that seem a little misguided to me. I wish people would instead concentrate on things such as how much money was raised & was it all really ultimately spent-- (as well as pointing out the hypocrisy as to how the govt provided healthcare wasn't good enough for Andy).
That issue alone-- the hypocrisy-- is enough for me to find the fundraising at a minimum to be intellectually fraudulent.
Scott's a jerk so maybe he led you down the wrong path on purpose. Actually, they're all jerks but since he claims to have given $200 to Scamdy he's the head jerk.
I truly don't think there's anything else to learn from CU, if there ever was. I honestly believe we were doing just fine by ourselves.
I'm getting grumpy being made fun of over there. They sure don't care to expand the viewership do they? Who is this Scott anyway. he was awful that night.
gotta go back and check - you may be right. I don't have everything in front of me. andy overload.
sorry you are right.
I had to go get the estimate.
my bad.
but now then I have to go back and see the conversation where they had just found out they needed another 7000 way back on the 10th or something? maybe before.
I got nothing but help and welcome's. Guess I wasn't prepared for a site that wants to be viewed to lie to a first time poster. Kinda dumb of them though.
thanks. do you remember Scott telling us the rules about mods posting? Am I nuts?
Then perhaps this is a case of . . . ELECTIVE FRAUD!
WE DEMAND HONEST AND OPEN ELECTIVES!
Maybe Undie got himself defenestrated. Up front. If you know what I mean.
YES....coz we couldn't figure out why he was actin like such a prick
I agree it's pretty sloppy-- but that's the way business is done sometimes. I think when people are involved so closely in evaluating this "situation", they expect that banks never mispell names, different departments in the hospital (patient relations which sends out the estimates) always talks to the accounting deparment, and that no one after a surgery would possibly be able to sneak out a phone call.
When looking at this situation, it's all thing IN TOTAL. Maybe business "is done" that way sometimes if you're ordering a lamp from a catalogue, but not if you're having potentially life-saving surgery. The dates don't add up, the departure from JH's NORMAL, written procedures for dealing with a patient who can't pay makes this questionable. It's not even like he was rushed to emergency where things get chaotic and one can assume papers might get lost. Oncology has their own financial services department...just for cancer patients. Given the life and death struggles even the oncology financial department witnesses DAILY, business "is done" a little more carefully, I'd bet.
I think when people are involved so closely in evaluating this "situation", they expect that banks never mispell names, different departments in the hospital (patient relations which sends out the estimates) always talks to the accounting deparment
Nonsense, I have a fairly common last name, but an uncommon spelling...I get mail everyday that's mispelled. I don't expect a teller to be a spelling genius and I don't think anyone else does...it was another hinky little item in a flood of hinky little items about this whole situation. One department in a hospital may not talk to another, but I'm betting people send checks to the wrong JH department all the time and I would bet if you did survey of former patients that did so, you'd probably find only those without insurance seeking elective surgery MIGHT have had their surgery postponed.
When I was much younger, before kids I was a secretary/bookkeeper in a 1-person office...I was the only one handling the paper, mail, checks, etc. Even when I was dealing with one of our chronically late clients...if they said they sent the check, I'd give them the benefit of the doubt and wait a few more days. We're only talking RV accessories here, NOT life-saving surgery!
Cindie
I agree there.
I personally never cared how JH was spelled, it was just amusing since you'd think the person who was dying to have surgery there would make sure it was spelled right. As you notice after we made fun of them they made sure to have the check drawn up on May 19th spelled right.
I will repeat that I don't care how much Scamdy paid JH, wasn't my money. I don't care if he went to have his head cut off. The fact is they lied about JH losing the checks so no surgery, and about JH being paid in full on the 11th. I tend to be a dog with a bone when it comes to things like this. I also believe they have tried to ruin the good name of Johns Hopkins by their actions.
Thanks again. the mod says s/he's trying to find it. Won't surprise me if they don't though.
I agree here to.
I am in total agreement everywhere.
lol
LOL. Your bill is as authentic as their bills.
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