Posted on 03/18/2005 12:19:15 PM PST by 1stFreedom
March 18, 2005 -- New York, NY
People across the nation are contacting the Governor's office encouraging him to utilize the Florida National Guard.
Under provisions of Florida Statute 250.28, the Governor may utilize the guard in order to execute the laws of the state when the local authorities are not able to.
Orders issued by Pinellas Circuit Judge George Greer are in clear violation Article I Section 2 of the Constitution of the State of Florida.
These orders have created confusion as to what course of action is to be taken by local authorities, and has resulted in a resistance to protecting the rights of Terri Schiavo.
Under Florida Statue 250.28, the Governor is given authority to use the National Guard to prevent resistance to the execution of state laws.
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Responding to voice commands is not a reflex action.
Actually, you do, because of this statement you made in post #116: You disagree with what I defined as a vegetative state.
What you defined is what is at issue, because you pretended that the determination of what constitutes a vegitative state was something you were somehow qualified to do yourself. Clearly you weren't and aren't. It's really not any more difficult to understand than that. The paid clinical "experts" to which you refer were opinions bought by legal sharks. Or don't you know how that game is played?
I suppose you wouldn't have objected to the 3/5 compromise or Dred Scott court decisions on the basis of your notions of "conservatism"? Gotta wonder what the "legal experts" were saying then, hmm?
May you hope that your personal fate someday is not placed at the mercy of a corrupt court system such as this situation manifests.
BY the way - I should ask - you may not agree that this woman is in a vegetative state but do you agree with my statement on a general level? That people in a veg. state tend to look like they are responsive?
Please cite and quote the Florida law that says this. If you can't - because, rightly interpreted, there isn't such a law on the books - stop lecturing people who want to protect this poor woman.
Please cite the law you claim to know about. Otherwise, stop pushing for this woman's death.
It was a generalized statement - lots of other factors involved of course.
There is no "plug" to pull, with Terri. She's not on a respirator or any electrical system. There's just a feeding tube. Pulling that means starving her -- murdering her, just as withholding food from a baby is murder.
So the feds aren't allowed to protect civil rights? The blacks who used to be kept in Florida segregated schools - till the feds intervened - - might disagree with you.
You need to look into getting your moral compass fixed before you are condemned for eternity to outer darkness on the other side of the Lake of Fire.
Believers in Jesus Christ need not fear your familiar spirit.
Your ignorance is no longer an excuse!
Not when he's raising kids with another woman. He obviously has a conflict of interest, with respect to Terri, that her parents don't have. They have no interest that would be in conflict with Terri's interest, but the "husband" has three interests that are in conflict with Terri's - his fiance, and the two sons he has with his fiance. He can't marry his fiance until Terri is dead (or they're divorced) and until he can marry his fiance his two kids with her are illegitimate. to give them a name and legitimacy, Terri must die (or he must divorce her). So no, his "husbandly" rights viz Terri are gone, by any common sense analysis. The judge should never have entrusted this many with Terri's guardianship, because he has interests that are adverse to Terri's interest.
You know what I thought was the most disgusting thing about today's events, other than Terri's food supply being cut off - was that Michael Schiavo's GIRLFRIEND was the one who made the announcement. She wanted her 15 minutes of fame. They crap all over Terri's family. How they can sleep at night is beyond me.
You are massively ignorant about the issues in this case. You claim that "states rights" should prohibit the federal government from intervening to protect civil rights guaranteed by the federal constitution. Yet the 14th Amendment, section 5, explicitly gives Congress that power. That's why we have a federal civil rights act, and why local judges in the South are no longer allowed to uphold segregationist policies. You also claim that the "husband" should have "rights over" the wife - when he's got two kids by another woman who will remain illegitimate until the wife dies - so he has a flaming conflict of interest. You really ought to stop posting on this subject until you've done more reading and thinking.
I didn't know that. Sick.
yea well she has been a vegetable for over a decade.
"If she is in a vegetative state (I am assuming that she is) then she is technicaly brain dead if not defacto brain dead so the 'enumerated right to life' under the Florida Consitution does not apply."
I heard they hadn't done an MRI and that the doctor said her EEG did not show that she wasn't brain dead. In addition, she's not on life support (e.g., a ventilator)she's being fed through a tube because she's disabled and cannot feed herself. I fear for her and also for what this may set as a precedent - - what about all the Alzheimer patients - many of them are in a state not much better than hers. One of the things that makes me sick is I can't understand why her husband doesn't just walk away from this - - as I understand it, he has a new life, so what does he possibly have to gain from this, besides being an uncaring inhumane piece of scum. What's in it for him - -that's what I can't figure out.
No civil rights - she is a vegetable.
No civil rights - she is a vegetable - i.e a form of brain death.
I read that a brain CAT scan showed a shriveled non functioning cerebral cortex.
>> B) she is indeed in a Veg. state.
But this judge has blocked all reasonable revisititation of his finding, and is sustained at appeal level only because that level does not reverse lower court findings of "fact."
This patient has not even had a PET Scan or fMRI or a recent EEG, because he has blocked those requests, in spite of conflicting medical opinions and continuing controversy. So instead of resolving controversy, he is managing it by fiat at the expense of knowledge which neither you nor I have. But of course, I know, you have an Position Based on Conservitism. Kiss my ass.
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