[libertyman]

I wouldn't mind taking it on the chin for 4 yrs by a Dim if I could play a part in finding & electing TRUE conservatives (Republican OR 3rd party) into Congress or the Presidency (the House of Representatives is especially important here, is even more than the Presidency!).

I think you are looking short term when you worry about our ending up electing a liberal into the White House--& I'm talking long term. I'm talking about building an ever-increasing conservative/constitutionalist movement that could last for decades; & if that means having a liberal as President for 4 yrs, then that's the price we pay; but the benifits we will reap later will far outweigh the knocks we are dealing w/ short term.

[Gipper08]

It is true both John McCain and Rudy Guiliani will be running in 2008 and, as a matter are fact,they are already running as we speak.This is an oppurtunity Reagan conservatives in this party must take advantage of.The fact is that two very popular moderates in this campaign will help us nominate a conservative.McCain and Guiliani will split the liberal and moderate Republican vote in half and a true Reagan conservative can and will win.The key is to have a candidate that can unite the social and fiscal wing of this party(immigration as well).Allen sure cant do it,Sanford can not do it.The only one without the baggage and the skill to do this is Republican Study Committee chairman Mike Pence.We must have a true conservative in 2008.