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A very interesting and well-researched analysis of the "red shift" of US voters and its implications for the Democrats. Note: a "DINOcrat" is someone who has finally come to their senses regarding the Democratic party.
1 posted on 12/13/2004 7:59:32 PM PST by macbee
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To: macbee

Gonna have a tough time replacing future Dims when they are being aborted.


2 posted on 12/13/2004 8:01:03 PM PST by Paul Atreides (Why can't you be like Endicott?)
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To: macbee; Dales; commish; Common Tator; Coop; NYC Republican; SJackson; yonif; Lazamataz; Howlin; ...

One killer for Dems is that they can't raise funds in Miami. Some hip, modern Hispanics and Jews in Miami can still be convinced to vote for Democrats (for now), but they've already decided to not support the Dems with their own pocketbooks.

That's an enormous "red" flag for the Dems. Watch for other Democratic Party areas to gradually follow Miami's lead.

3 posted on 12/13/2004 8:18:26 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: macbee
Seems like older people (such as myself) get more conservative over time. I was pretty liberal in my 20's (gag, aclu member). But, uh, idealism gives way to realism and fairness - seeing so much tax money wasted by bozo's on stupid programs helped, too. Oh yea, and the federal government has not ever solved one social problem.

I predict a continuing conservative surge for at least 10 more years. Then all the illegals have a shot.

4 posted on 12/13/2004 8:22:16 PM PST by searchandrecovery (I got nuthin'.)
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To: macbee
Interesting article from the point of view of a disaffected Democrat. he understands the problems, and also seems to understand that the interest groups controlling the Dems are unlikely to allow any of the necessary changes. Excellent graphic, which I think I can reproduce here because he says he got it from CBS anyway :^) showing the dense concentration of Democrat votes in several urban counties:


5 posted on 12/13/2004 9:04:42 PM PST by TheMole
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He has it exactly right. These Democrats didn’t stay home; they didn’t leave the presidential ballot unmarked. They crossed over to the dark side.

Maybe so, but more rats also increased their votes. More rats voted in this election than at any previous point in history. It seems that the rats held their voters, but Republican votes grew by leaps. 911 happened and for a lot of people who never voted this was the catalyst.

6 posted on 12/13/2004 9:47:14 PM PST by Once-Ler ("He lives in Madison, WI. No wonder he thinks Bush is a conservative!")
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To: macbee
Forget it, Democrats: you can never win back enough votes to overcome the shortfall. That's because we evil Republicans, in concert with Diebold Inc., Halliburton and the Carlyle Group, have rigged all the voting machines to cast all their votes for Republicans! Bwaaa-haaaa-haaa-HAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

Sorry, just messing with your heads.

Maybe.

You'll never know.

7 posted on 12/13/2004 9:49:00 PM PST by HHFi
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But I thought MoveOn.org held the pink slip for the Democrat Party now. Let them pony up the money they need to stay competitive.


9 posted on 12/13/2004 9:50:14 PM PST by asgardshill ("We march by day and read Xenophon by night.")
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They won't get me back, even after 28 years of voting Democratic. Not after the weak response to 9/11 and the terrorist appeasement that followed. Not after allowing a scum sucking bottom feeder like Cynthia McKinney into the party and then taking her back after getting rid of her once. This long-time Democrat is through, through with the party. You'd have to resurrect Harry Truman from the dead to get me back. And even then you'd have to prove you will fight for this country. Pulling that republican level for the first time felt really good. Again, again!


10 posted on 12/13/2004 9:53:19 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal)
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To: macbee
Usually 8-12% of a party defects to the other side. A lot of them are 'local democrats' or 'local republicans' but switch for national races. (one party areas).

A lot of those democrats are most likely Southern, from the UP or Northeast Michigan, or from places like West Virginia. Working class folks mostly who are conservative.

The republican switchers are usually liberals from rich areas.

11 posted on 12/13/2004 9:54:00 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("BZZZZZT You are fined one credit for violation of the Verbal Morality Statute")
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I heard on the local radio yesterday that in New York State, President Bush won 5 more counties t han he had in 2000 and got over 500,000 more votes in the state than he'd gotten in 2000.


14 posted on 12/14/2004 4:51:18 AM PST by mass55th ("If I were two faced, would I be wearing this one?"----Abe Lincoln (1809-1865))
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To: macbee
Coaxing the Democrat Bush voters back into the fold is not something the MoveOn crowd shows interest in. The 3 - 4 million Democrats who voted for Bush have been insulted just as much as the Republican Bush supporters in the aftermath of the election by the left wing of the Democratic party; these turncoat Democrats have become “predatory and resentful, amoral, avaricious, and arrogant,” just like the President they voted for, or maybe they’re just plain stupid – in the minds of leftist Democrat elites. Among the GOP’s biggest voter recruiting and retention tools is the condescending attitude of the Left towards everyone who is not them.

Ain't that the truth!

19 posted on 12/14/2004 10:05:02 AM PST by mewzilla
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