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Sen. John Kerry “Excommunicated,” According To Vatican Response
BushCountry.org ^ | 10/19/04 | Austin Miles

Posted on 10/19/2004 6:29:43 AM PDT by justme346


A Los Angeles based expert in Canon Law, the legal code used by the Roman Catholic Church, announced Friday on EWTN's the World Over Live with Raymond Arroyo that an important Vatican congregation has given an unprecedented boost to his case for heresy against presidential candidate John Kerry. Marc Balestrieri, JCL who has filed a formal case for Heresy against Kerry for his support of the right to abortion, revealed that he has received a written response prompted by the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, affirming that Catholic politicians who persist in supporting the right to abortion are "automatically excommunicated."

Mr. Balestrieri, Director of De Fide, said the Response was written by the Reverend Fr. Basil Cole, O.P., an expert theologian based in Washington D.C., who was delegated by the Undersecretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Very Rev. Fr. Augustine di Noia, O.P., to formally respond. As a result, the Response has encouraged him to expand his complaint to include four more pro-abortion Catholic politicians, both Democrat and Republican.

"I went to Rome in person to submit two critical questions to the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith," said Balestrieri. "The first: Whether or not the Church's teaching condemning any direct abortion is a dogma of Divine and Catholic Faith, with the denial or doubt of that dogma constituting heresy. The second: Whether or not the Church's teaching condemning every right to abortion is a dogma of Divine and Catholic Faith, with the opposite error to that dogma heresy."

In a four-page letter now posted at www.defide.com, Fr. Cole responded 'Affirmative' on both counts.

The Response is significant in that it represents the first time in modern history since Roe v. Wade in 1973 that such a clear reply is given to the Catholic faithful. Drafted under the auspices of the official Vatican Congregation with competency to decide doctrinal questions, it is entirely unambiguous and concludes:

"Consequently, if a Catholic publicly and obstinately supports the civil right to abortion, knowing that the Church teaches officially against that legislation, he or she commits that heresy envisioned by Can. 751 of the Code. Provided that the presumptions of knowledge of the law and penalty (Can. 15, § 2) and imputability (Can. 1321, § 3) are not rebutted in the external forum, one is automatically excommunicated according to Can. 1364, § 1."

Mr. Balestrieri, a political independent, has repeatedly declared that his actions come to defend the Faith and Holy Eucharist from sacrilege and scandal, not as one focused on an electoral outcome. Catholics confess to the real presence-the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of God Himself-in the Sacrament of Holy Communion. "As early as today, Sen. Kerry, and all pro-choice Catholic politicians, who publicly call themselves Catholic yet who blatantly violate Canon Law by continuing to profess Heresy and receive Holy Communion, must publicly reject their abortion advocacy for the sake of their own souls, and the others they have scandalized. They have been excommunicated."

Balestrieri went to Rome in late August and met with a dozen experts, all of whom confirmed the threefold unprecedented nature and scope of his canonical action in Church history: that it is a formal complaint for reparation for harm due to heresy; that this is analogous to a Common Law class action; and that the complaint was initiated by a layman. (In the past such actions regarding heresy would have been handled by the "Holy Office" vertically downwards, and would never have reached this point.)

Lacking guidance from the Vatican, he sought an appointment and was received by an official of the Congregation in its halls in Rome. On September 9th, less than ten days later, the Rev. Basil Cole, O.P., contacted Balestrieri to inform him of his delegation to answer the two questions. Three days later, the written Response was issued.

The Response states that any Catholic who denies or doubts the two main conclusions, after knowing of their existence, commits Heresy. The Response holds that the dogmatic force of the two propositions is "manifest," a term not lightly used by any theologian. This means that one is dealing here not with a matter of a theologian's personal opinion, but with two core non-negotiable Articles of Faith. The Response, therefore, is "official" and binding in that it simply restates infallible teachings of the Ordinary and Universal Magisterium, already stated unequivocally by Cardinals Joseph Ratzinger, prefect of the CDF, and Tarcisio Bertone, then secretary of the CDF, in their own commentaries to the Professio Fidei of 1998. Hence the Response's rapid and forceful content.

The Response goes even further in specifying that any baptized Catholic who publicly states, "I'm personally opposed, but I support a woman's right to choose," is in fact presumed by Canon Law to be guilty of heresy, with the burden of proving that he is not shifted to the violating politician. A Catholic who publicly professes the right to choose heresy is automatically excommunicated, not by any declaration of the Church per se, but by the acts committed by the individual, and thus being in a state of mortal sin is ineligible to receive any of the Sacraments of the Church, including reception of the Eucharist, marriage, absolution from sin, and even Christian burial until the error is recanted and excommunication is lifted.

The often cited "Cuomo" defense, "I am personally opposed but I support the right to choose" has now been cut in half: A pro-choice Catholic politician who says that he is "personally opposed" to the ACT of abortion itself still commits Heresy by publicly supporting the civil RIGHT to choose abortion.

The fact that the Response was provided to a layman at the request of the Undersecretary, in writing, and in only eleven days is considered unique by numerous Bishops familiar with the matter. The extensive detail of the response, decisively clarifying the matter was unexpected. Normally, only a bishop may request such clarification of doctrine from the CDF and receive an official reply. Such responses usually take a much longer time to be received, and they are rarely made public.

Balestrieri also announced that the Denunciation for Heresy, a kind of lawsuit under the Catholic Church's Canon Law, filed against Senator Kerry is now pending before Kerry's bishop, Archbishop Sean O'Malley of Boston, according to the head of the Tribunal of the Archdiocese of Boston whom Balestrieri met with in person at the offices of the Metropolitan Tribunal at the end of July. The judge told him explicitly twice that the case had not been rejected, and that it was "now in the hands of the Archbishop." At the same time, Balestrieri was informed that the Tribunal simply did not have enough time to properly handle the sheer number (thousands upon thousands) of Denunciations and Complaints from ordinary Catholics that have poured in by certified mail. He also clarified that the Archbishop had not yet decided whether to instruct the Promoter of Justice, whose job is similar to that of a prosecutor, to formally charge Kerry with Heresy or any of the five other ecclesiastical violations Balestrieri had denounced him for.

Balestrieri is asking all individuals and groups seeking to join his canonical actions, as a result of the Tribunal's hesitation in handling the cases, for all future denunciations and complaints to be sent to Archbishop Sean O'Malley directly, in accordance with instructions which he will be sending out over the next few days, as posted on the DeFide.com website and sent to the thousands of supporters by e-mail.

With account taken of the developments and advice received while in Rome, Balestrieri has now decided he is able to broaden the actions he has filed to include other notoriously pro-abortion Catholic politicians of both the Republican and Democrat parties. Apart from amending his Denunciation and Complaint against Sen. Kerry to include the Response, four additional Denunciations and Complaints have been filed against Sen. Ted Kennedy (D) of Massachusetts; Sen. Tom Harkin (D) of Iowa; Mr. Mario Cuomo (D), former Governor of New York; and Sen. Susan Collins (R) of Maine. They have been filed today in the five Ecclesiastical Courts of the five separate Dioceses of Boston (MA), Fall River (MA), Des Moines (IA), New York (NY), and Portland (ME). Balestrieri said the four have been chosen based on their consistent, extensive, and public pro-abortion records.

Balestrieri has appealed for the thousands of joinders to be vigilant for procedural updates and specific canonical instructions which he is sending out this week.

Rev Austin Miles


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To: Petronski
"That could happen if those priests publicly proclaimed their actions were not sinful. Let me know when that happens."

No, that should have happened because they betrayed the trust of their flock and took advantage of innocent boys. All while knowing that the Church would pay-off the families and transfer the priests to start their crimes in another location. Until the church comes to grips with the systematic criminal activity and cover-up of that activity perpetrated against innocent kids I can't hold much weight behind who they choose to excommunicate.
21 posted on 10/19/2004 7:08:11 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: blaquebyrd
Your reply shows you know nothing about canon law.

I can't hold much weight behind who they choose to excommunicate.

Who cares?

22 posted on 10/19/2004 7:09:36 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: blaquebyrd

You probably think women who have had abortions and now realize that it was wrong should shut up too, because after all they are just sinners and have no credibility.


23 posted on 10/19/2004 7:11:02 AM PDT by Jaded ((Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain))
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To: Petronski
"Your reply shows you know nothing about canon law."

I know the difference between right and wrong and raping boys is wrong!
24 posted on 10/19/2004 7:11:49 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: blaquebyrd

Until the church comes to grips with the systematic criminal activity and cover-up of that activity perpetrated against innocent kids. . .


Where have you been?


25 posted on 10/19/2004 7:12:47 AM PDT by adc
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To: blaquebyrd

And who has said it is right? Who?


26 posted on 10/19/2004 7:13:03 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: adc
Agreed. I'm certain the reason he has been "Catholic" as of late is to get as many northern swing-state votes as possible.

But, I suspect Kerry will do what he does best, and ignore the excommunication and keep on talking..

Or, maybe he will proclaim the Vatican is part of the vast right-wing conspiracy.
27 posted on 10/19/2004 7:28:50 AM PDT by miskie
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To: miskie

Yes, he can ignore and keep on potificating, however, his excommunication will undoubtedly be brought up as an issue which speaks to the integrity of his (lack of) core beliefs. One more nail.


28 posted on 10/19/2004 7:35:41 AM PDT by adc
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To: justme346

I'm betting the OLD MEDIA will not touch this! ...let me know.


29 posted on 10/19/2004 7:37:52 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun

Russert may.


30 posted on 10/19/2004 7:47:39 AM PDT by adc
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To: miskie
Not vast right wing conspiracy, just that Bush is giving them favors to garner their support. Or blackmail! That's it. Bush is blackmailing the Vatican to excommunicate Kerry. They used a Canon lawyer who is a consultant to CDF in Los Angeles to perpetrate this so no one would be the wiser. Since at FR we are smarter than the average bear and 96.8 percent of the population we have figured this out. Oh, and the parish priests are going to stuff the ballot boxes in all of the public schools and Baptist churches that are polling places and steal the election. Does that about cover it? This will be in KittyLitter's next book.

/sarcasm off

31 posted on 10/19/2004 8:01:29 AM PDT by Jaded ((Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain))
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To: Jaded
ahh, yes.. Its all so clear to me now..
Where is my tin foil pyramid hat when I need it ?? ;)

But, In all seriousness,Kamp Kerry has already started down the 'ignore it' path with this remark from Meehan , "Kerry's a Catholic who attends Mass regularly and receives communion. That explains his standing in the church."
32 posted on 10/19/2004 9:20:59 AM PDT by miskie
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To: justme346
http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0405749.htm

They never even got a chance to pull an about face. Apparently, they want to say they never really replied, at all.

Told you it wasn't what the present institutional church does. That's the shame of it. And contrary to - that guy - and what he said, it can mean auto-excommunication for just publicly procuring an abortion. So the question is, does encouraging public policy toward that end, right up to voting AGAINST a ban on 'partial birth' abortion, amount to auto-excommunication?

33 posted on 10/19/2004 11:17:32 AM PDT by sevry
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To: justme346
I think there is still a lot to come out on this.

Daring to discipline (On excommunication of pro-choice Catholic pols)

Vatican: Kerry guilty of heresy; incurrs automatic excommunication

Major Developments -- Kerry Heresy Case

Denunciation of US Senator John F Kerry for Heresy.

JOHN KERRY, Kennedy, Harkin, Cuomo, Collins, Denounced for Heresy

Lawyer buoyed on Kerry 'heresy

NY TIMES: Letter Supports Anti-Kerry Bid Over Abortion (Kerry Excommunication)

DRUDGE POSTS 'MOVE TO EXCOMMUNICATE KERRY AND OTHERS ADVANCES'

Sen. John Kerry “Excommunicated,” According To Vatican Response

Vatican denies it responded to lawyer seeking Kerry's excommunication.

34 posted on 10/19/2004 5:29:51 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Grendel9

Don't you mean "The Annointing of the Sick"?


35 posted on 10/19/2004 5:31:08 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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