Posted on 10/07/2004 10:39:13 AM PDT by skellmeyer
"A deacon must be the husband of but one wife" 1 Timothy 3:12
Luther was an Augustinian priest, not a deacon.
Wow. I missed that thread.
Devolution at a blinding pace.
=== whether they did so unknowingly or not.
It's true that -- given the cultural maoism we've undergone and, the Catholic Church particularly, the "revolution from within" that's been frighteningly successful to date -- there is some for arguing many are simply ignorant.
Ignorance, unfortunately, is infallible.
But too often I've encountered those on this forum who manage to defend somehow the notion of birth control as if God would approve of any means -- particularly abortifacient or artificial -- which serve only to BAR absolutely His will in the matter of creation.
I cannot figure this line of reasoning out ... though I realize many rationalize same on the fact Christ never specifically mentioned birth control or abortion and therefore God is somehow "silent" on the matter.
In the same way, it stuns me when folks around here who supposedly understand that "all men are created equal and endowed by their CREATOR with a right to life, etc." manage to rationalize artificial conception or the utilitarian destruction of Excess Manufacture in that it is "moral" not to waste these unimplanted lives or "moral" to sacrifice one for another.
I've always wondered how polygamists dealt with issues such as PMS, which bed to sleep in on a given night, credit cards, checkbooks, etc... One woman is enough for me.
God never condones multiple wives and all examples of it in the Bible demonstrate why you shouldn't, Solomon being a great example.
Yes. 1 Timothy 3:2 - An overseer must be the husband "of but one wife." I seriously doubt that God would require a level of morality for church leaders, but then say to everyone else, "Hey, do whatcha like."
Matthew 19, Genesis 2 and so one make it clear that God's plan is for one wife with one husband. Nowhere does God give the go-ahead for polygamy.
Well, gee, let's not forget Abraham! Talk about creating a mess in the world with wives and concubines.
LOL. Well said.
=== whether they did so unknowingly or not.
It's true that -- given the cultural maoism we've undergone and, the Catholic Church particularly, the "revolution from within" that's been frighteningly successful to date -- there is some for arguing many are simply ignorant.
Ignorance, unfortunately, is infallible.
But too often I've encountered those on this forum who manage to defend somehow the notion of birth control as if God would approve of any means -- particularly abortifacient or artificial -- which serve only to BAR absolutely His will in the matter of creation.
I cannot figure this line of reasoning out ... though I realize many rationalize same on the fact Christ never specifically mentioned birth control or abortion and therefore God is somehow "silent" on the matter.
In the same way, it stuns me when folks around here who supposedly understand that "all men are created equal and endowed by their CREATOR with a right to life, etc." manage to rationalize artificial conception or the utilitarian destruction of Excess Manufacture in that it is "moral" not to waste these unimplanted lives or "moral" to sacrifice one for another.
The ancient Romans practiced female infanticide and also used abortifacients. I don't know whether the Jews of Jesus' time used abortifacients or prohibited their use. If they were already prohibited, Jesus would have no need to issue condemnation since he was preaching to a Jewish community. However, the early Christians did condemn both abortifacients and infanticide.
AAAACCCCKKK!!!
How about if yer a leader inna 'church', yer not gonna have time to do it right if ya gotta big family to take care of? At the time, if ya had more than one wife, it was a good bet you'd end up twenty, thirty, or more kids, if they all survived. Shoot, ya coulda ended up with twenty or more kids with just one wife! Ya can't spend time lovin' yer family and takin' care of 'em right if yer busy workin' inna church alla time. Can you say: Conflict of interest? How can ya love on the church if yer not lovin' on yer family first? Doesn't make sense.
Paul said if you were gonna work as a leader inna church, that it was better to be unmarried, like he was at the time, but if yer gonna be tempted, it's best to get married.
Wasn't Jesus referring to money and God being the two masters?
Islam permits four wives. With a growing number of Muslims in this country along with the Mormons, I can see this becoming an issue if we start changing the meaning of marriage.
Polygamy is the gender neutral form that incompases both polygyny and polyandry.
Easy, you don't sleep in the same bed as the wife with PMS. Thanks to you, I'm seeing polygamy in a whole new light. There is the opportunity for escape here.
We need a constitutional amendment defining what marriage - civil - is in this nation. One man and one woman. Period.
That is why I put "concubines".
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