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(ZOT!!!) Not ONE SINGLE MEMBER of Swift Boat Vets Against Kerry actually served on his boat.
Slan, tossed off the boat.

Posted on 08/05/2004 11:57:23 AM PDT by Slan

Not a SINGLE MEMBER OF SWIFT BOAT VETS AGAINST KERRY ACTUALLY SERVED ON HIS BOAT WITH HIM.

On the other hand, Kerry's real shipmates support him publically.

That is why the Swift Boat Vets Against Kerry have ZERO credibility, and are thus being almost completely ignored by the mainstream media. Yes, they'll get some airplay with zealots like Hannaty and Rush, but in essence these guys have shown themselves to be total grifters.

Shame of the Republican Party for endorsing this kind of dishonest, and ESPECIALLY shame on George W. Bush for not condemning this pack of fools.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: dishonest; kerry; kittychow; mccain; mynameishanoijohn; swiftboatveterans; troll; zot
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To: Slan

Hi Newbie. DU not gay enough for you?


61 posted on 08/05/2004 10:15:34 PM PDT by Claire Voyant ((visualize whirled peas))
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To: Slan

He thought enough of them to place their picture on his site until some demanded their images not be used..They were fellow swift boat commanders...not crew.


62 posted on 08/06/2004 2:06:44 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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Kerry's machine gunner sure surved on the same boat with him... Steve Gardner.


63 posted on 08/07/2004 10:23:33 AM PDT by oolatec
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To: Slan

You're not from around here, air ya?
Take a break and drink some more Koolaid!


64 posted on 08/07/2004 10:25:00 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Bob J
Swift boats rarely act alone. Kerry's boat was part of a larger contingent that conducted operations in groups, usually at least 3 or 4 boats. In that respect, they were part of his "band of brothers' even though they didn't serve in the same boat.

True -- in fact Kerry's convention film portrayed a group of several swiftboats out on a mission together.

65 posted on 08/07/2004 10:46:44 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Slan

Which liberal stink hole did you slither out of?

66 posted on 08/07/2004 2:47:16 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (LWS - Legislating While Stupid. Someone should make this illegal.)
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To: Slan
As I understand it, these boats deployed in groups.

It stands to reason that the guys in the other boats saw what the boat commanded by Kerry did.

Was it (Kerry's boat)in formation, was the helmsmanship acceptable, or was it a hazard to navigation?

Were the weapons deployed to protect the group, or was the boat deployed to protect the boat at the expense of others?

Did the boat routinely maneuver in such a fashion as to cause other boats to maneuver more into harm's way to compensate?

Did the commander take grandstanding actions which unnecessarily placed other boarts in harm's way?

Did they hold back and not do their part? The guys in the other boats would know.

Just drive down any street. You don't have to be in someone's car to tell they drive like an idiot.

67 posted on 08/07/2004 2:57:45 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Men of honor once settled disputes face to face with cold steel. Now lawyers shove paper...)
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To: Slan
in essence these guys have shown themselves to be total grifters.

Yes, I'm sure they're making a boatload of money. Moron.

68 posted on 08/07/2004 8:00:48 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Get in the fight today: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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To: PamB
Well, I have to agree with Slan, that how do you not accept the 12 Admirals and Generals who support him,

Wearing a star doesn't make you smart. Ask Wesley Clark. Ask General Karpinski from Abu Ghraib.

plus the crew at the Convention,

As noted above, all of them served with him for less than half his tour. Additionally, none were his superiors (every superior in his chain of command opposes him) and some DID NOT serve on his boat either. See post 33 in this thread.

as compared to John O'Neill who obviously wants to sell his book and is an acknowledged Political opponent, plus these gentlemen who merely were in VietNam.

Hey Pam, have you ever been falsely accused of war crimes by Mr. Kerry? Mr. O'Neill has. The Left (and apparently you) want to have it both ways: If a guy hasn't gone after Kerry before or was OK with his Senate bids, he's a lying scumbag. But if he has, like O'Neill, been anti-Kerry since day one and never wavered, it's an old grudge, and he's "an acknowledged Political opponent." Well, I'm an acknowledged political opponent of Mr. Kerry's, and I say let's see the records. Are you afraid of the records, Pam?

And as for asking for John's records to be released, every single one has. Please recheck.

False. Kerry has released virtually nothing, just a few citations. The reason the swiftvets are calling for him to file a form 180 is because his records (especially performance evals and after-actions) have NOT been released. He is afraid to release them. Why?

No matter what, Kerry came back from Vietnam and accused our troops of crimes they did not commit. He sent troops to Iraq to fight for this country and then tried to withhold the funds they needed to fight. I say he is a traitor. I say let's see those records. What say you, Pam?

69 posted on 08/07/2004 8:21:12 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Get in the fight today: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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To: Slan

Stupid liberal weasels - Swift boats often worked in formations, just like tanks and aircraft. You don't need to be *in* the boat to observe Kerry's fraudulent actions.

I can't beleive you're really this stupid.


70 posted on 08/09/2004 12:29:39 AM PDT by Fenris6
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To: PamB
And as for asking for John's records to be released, every single one has. Please recheck.
If you're still around then would you be so kind as to state where every single one of those records are checkable at? I know lots of folks who would like to take a gander at them.
71 posted on 08/09/2004 1:56:49 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: PamB
I can't get a single .pdf file to open from his site...John Kerry's Official Naval Records
nor from Military Service Records of Senator John F. Kerry @findlaw.com
I use Adobe PDF Conversion by Simple Form to view .pdf files online and I get nothing.
I'd simply like to see the man's DD-214 myself for starters.
72 posted on 08/09/2004 2:09:05 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: PamB
Well, I've now dowloaded and loaded Acrobat Reader just to see what FindLaw has and I can see what they've got up.
Thanks for inticing me with your words to go ahead and go through the whole process. I've got some interesting reading to do now.
For now, one thing already pops out on the Thrice Wounded Reassignment (PDF) March 17, 1969...REASSIGNMENT IS REQUESTED and LTJG KERRY REQ DUTY AS PERSONAL AIDE IN BOSTON, NEW YORK OR WASHIG AREA.

Another thing of note is that there is only one Personnel Casualty Report (PDF)...one about an injury in the left thigh. It reads in part...
CONDITION GOOD, PROGNOSIS GOOD, PRESENCE OF NOX (?) IS NOT MEDICALLY WARRANTED (?)
And did you know that his major, according to his DD-214, was Political Science? What a hoot!
On to more reading.

73 posted on 08/09/2004 2:54:21 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Slan

It may be true that none of them served on the same boat as John Kerry, but the picture is of other officers. It looks like all the other boats can't trust him. It was best that Kerry did only serve 4 months and not the full tour. Some these guys might have not been speaking now! THINK ON THAT.


74 posted on 08/09/2004 11:50:40 AM PDT by t65rock
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To: Slan
Not a SINGLE MEMBER OF SWIFT BOAT VETS AGAINST KERRY ACTUALLY SERVED ON HIS BOAT WITH HIM.

They never claimed to have served ON his boat, knucklehead. Research your talking points before you log on. Oh, wait... you can't log on... YOU'RE BANNED!!!

75 posted on 08/09/2004 11:52:02 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Slan
Shame of the Republican Party for endorsing this kind of dishonest

The pride of our public school system comes to FR to educate us unwashed primitives. As if we didn't already know that they weren't on his boat. They just happened to be on the boats next to his, and one was his doctor.

76 posted on 08/09/2004 11:55:08 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Slan

Actually, that is NOT true and you are the liar. His gunnery mate actually served directly on his boat. The others served on boats 50 feet away, but slept, ate, drilled, and fought together.


77 posted on 08/09/2004 11:57:40 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: EggsAckley
Shoot, I'm always a day late and a dollar short for the troll-a-thons!

I was just wondering.......

Will the number of trolls increase proportionately as Election Day approaches...

Or will their numbers decrease once there is a resumption in the running of the shortbus?

78 posted on 08/09/2004 12:00:36 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Democrat - It's in the dictionary - It's between "delusional" and "dimwit.")
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To: EggsAckley
"Shoot, I'm always a day late and a dollar short for the troll-a-thons!"

You rang??????

79 posted on 08/09/2004 12:07:48 PM PDT by daylate-dollarshort
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To: daylate-dollarshort

Oh, hello.


80 posted on 08/09/2004 12:09:52 PM PDT by EggsAckley (........."Yo" is "Oy" spelled backwards.........)
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