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Scientists Vie To Break Junk DNA's Secret Code
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | Roger Highfield

Posted on 10/06/2003 4:34:06 PM PDT by blam

Scientists vie to break junk DNA's secret code

By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
(Filed: 06/10/2003)

Huge tracts of human DNA, previously written off as meaningless junk, have been found to contain a hitherto unrecognised "genetic grammar", making the language of our genes much more complex than previously thought.

The discovery is of potentially huge significance, since it could lead to an entirely new explanation for certain diseases and symptoms. A race is now on among teams of scientists worldwide to investigate this cryptic code.

While the genetic recipe of a human being is spelt out with three billion letters of DNA code, only about two per cent of these correspond to the genes - the DNA that describes the proteins that build and operate bodies.

In the latest issue of the journal Science, Prof Stylianos Antonarakis of the University of Geneva Medical School, Dr Ewen Kirkness of the Institute of Genomic Research, Maryland, and colleagues have reported compelling evidence that up to three per cent of our genetic material has a crucial role that is not understood.

They made the unexpected discovery that some DNA regions of humans, dogs and species as distant as elephant and wallaby are nearly identical. These regions of what were once called junk have been dubbed "conserved non-genic sequences", or CNGs, a reference to how they are not conventional genes.

Prof Antonarakis said: "I suspect that mutations in CNGs may contribute to numerous genetic disorders." Defects in CNGs could result in illness while the symptoms of Down's syndrome, caused by an extra copy of a chromosome, might be linked to the presence of additional CNGs.

"Many laboratories are now working on identifying pathogenic mutations," he said.


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KEYWORDS: crevolist; geneticgrammar; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; junkdna
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To: js1138
I see no correlation whatsoever between churchgoing, professed belief, and good behavior. Nor is one necessary, since works are not the ticket to heaven. I know I'm exaggerating here, but I just don't see much cause and effect between faith in a particular interpretation of the Bible and living a moral life.

Read the Humanist Manifesto - I believe it addresses the problem of attaining morality without religion. In order to have morality, you must have a standard - who sets it? The problem is that humanists have no moral standard other than man, and each man has his own opinion on what that standard should be. Our founding fathers (Washington, Adams, Madison, et al.) stated over and over that you can't have morality without religion. Read Washington's farewell address - I'm sure you can find that on-line. While you're at it, read his inaugural address. But what did Washington know - he was only the Father of our Country. "Virtue" is meaningless without religion because it is a moving target with no standard.

641 posted on 10/10/2003 11:11:27 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: balrog666
You know you love me.
642 posted on 10/10/2003 11:11:34 AM PDT by DittoJed2 ("Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?)
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To: exmarine
I know I'm exaggerating here, but I just don't see much cause and effect between faith in a particular interpretation of the Bible and living a moral life.

Then you do not understand the heritage of America or the reasons why our government was set up the way it was. A French observer, de Toqueville, said that in America, the notions of Christianity and freedom are "intimately united" and inseparable in the minds of Americans. It has to do with the notion of self-governance (a pillar of our system) which holds that people will govern themselves and restrain themselves from evil based upon their fear of God and relationship with God. No fear of God, no restraint! Just look at out society today - it is plain to see that there is no fear of God - in fact the courts are driving God out of society while gay rights, tolerance, hedonism, in-your-face perversities of every sort are the norm. There are two ways to restrain sinful man (sinfulness of man is another cornerstone of our system) - God or the gun. See the correlation now?

643 posted on 10/10/2003 11:16:15 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: exmarine
Vermont has the record ... higest amt of psychopathic teenage males in prison --- per capita !

Evolution madness !
644 posted on 10/10/2003 11:22:59 AM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: js1138
By the way, our founders were largely non-sectarian protestants. They rejected a national church, but they definitely embraced protestant Christianity. They took the bible seriously - and I can cite many facts that prove it.

The problem with many Americans today is that they are ignorant of our history. I would estimate that less than 5% have a decent understanding of our national heritage and our system of government and its roots. The reason for that is that our schools teach revisionism (outright lies, omissions, etc.) about our founders and our founding documents. That is a fact.

645 posted on 10/10/2003 11:23:31 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: exmarine
"Virtue" is meaningless without religion because it is a moving target with no standard.

Sort of like having thousands of religions, sects, and denominations, each of whom claims the one true standard, and which at some time in their history, have killed people for disagreeing with them. Of course you will argue that it is the Bible, not denomination that is the one true standard. I suppose that explains why there is so much agreement. After all, it's all in the book, and anyone can understand it.

646 posted on 10/10/2003 11:23:57 AM PDT by js1138
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To: js1138
Sort of like having thousands of religions, sects, and denominations, each of whom claims the one true standard, and which at some time in their history, have killed people for disagreeing with them. Of course you will argue that it is the Bible, not denomination that is the one true standard. I suppose that explains why there is so much agreement. After all, it's all in the book, and anyone can understand it.

No, Christians may disagree on non-essential theological issues, but they do not differ on what is right and wrong. What part of the 10 commandments is hard to understand? The denominations that ignore the 10 commandments are not Christian - they are their own authority - apostate liberals. "Liberal theology is merely humanism in theological terms" (Francis Schaeffer)

647 posted on 10/10/2003 11:29:01 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: js1138
By the way, not all religions can be true. Law of contradiction applies.
648 posted on 10/10/2003 11:29:53 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: exmarine
By the way, not all religions can be true.

Only 42 of them can be true at any given time.

649 posted on 10/10/2003 11:33:09 AM PDT by balrog666 (As long as people believe in absurdities, they will continue to commit atrocities.)
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To: Ogmios
Holy warriors are the trench coat evo liberal mafia attacking America - conservatives - Christianity !
650 posted on 10/10/2003 11:35:26 AM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: exmarine
They took the bible seriously - and I can cite many facts that prove it.

Anyone living in that time had no choice but to take the Bible seriously. Whether they interpretated the Bible the way you do is, I think, revealed more in their private correspondence than in their public speeches.

651 posted on 10/10/2003 11:37:10 AM PDT by js1138
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To: balrog666
I thought the magic number was 19. In any case it makes honoring your father and mother difficult if you are born to one of the false religions. I wonder what the law of contradiction says about that.
652 posted on 10/10/2003 11:43:58 AM PDT by js1138
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To: js1138
The real star in Truman Capote's ... In Cold Blood --- was the teenager on death row who offed his parents !

He was the trench coat mafia king - prototype ... pleasure seekers - no conscience !

This is what evolution is doing to America ... void of reality - responsibility - morality --- anarchy - psychopaths !
653 posted on 10/10/2003 11:44:21 AM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: f.Christian
Never read much Capote. Wasn't he gay, along with most of his readers? ;^)
654 posted on 10/10/2003 11:45:52 AM PDT by js1138
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To: js1138
He was also famous for saying ... Harold Robbins is a writer --- then a woodpecker is a carpenter !
655 posted on 10/10/2003 11:48:35 AM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: js1138
Anyone living in that time had no choice but to take the Bible seriously. Whether they interpretated the Bible the way you do is, I think, revealed more in their private correspondence than in their public speeches.

Sorry, but the founders took the bible seriously BY CHOICE. Even a cursory reading of their writings makes that clear. Even Franklin (probably not a Christian) called for prayer and believed that God won the revolutionary war for America. And you wrong, the public writings are very clear in that the founding fathers started the American Bible Society and American Tract Society - do you suppose they kept that a secret? 27 of 56 signers of the D of I had seminary degrees!

With all due respect, you need some study on this, and you need it from an objective historian that cites PRIMARY sources in their full context, not historical revisionism.

656 posted on 10/10/2003 12:06:42 PM PDT by exmarine
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To: exmarine
You misread my post. I specifically implied that they were public Christians. The question being raised is what they said in their private writings.
657 posted on 10/10/2003 12:09:44 PM PDT by js1138
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To: exmarine
Let me clarify what I mean by private writings. Any google search will turn up buckets of skeptical quotes from the major league founding fathers -- the ones whose pictures are on our money.

I choose not to post these quotes because I don't have the ability to confirm their authenticity. I could, like some here, post any old quotation I find without being concerned whether it was made by Steven Gold or Stephen Gould, or whether it is in the correct context.

So rather than make a fool of my self like others have, I will simply say that I have seen quotes attributed to several founding fathers that indicates they were not at all what we now call fundamentalists. Some wrote extensively of their skepticism of the historical accuracy of the Bible.

These quotes may be false attributions. I am open to argument on this. But if the quotes are accurate, you are quite wrong.
658 posted on 10/10/2003 12:22:35 PM PDT by js1138
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To: js1138
Make that a google search on founding fathers and religion.
659 posted on 10/10/2003 12:30:25 PM PDT by js1138
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To: balrog666
Original:

The Pope is not THE anti-Christ ...

Mutation:

... and explicitly said the pope is NOT the antichrist.

Evolution!

660 posted on 10/10/2003 12:35:52 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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