"TOM McSELFISH = Gov. BustaMENCHA"

9/14/2003 | ALOHA RONNIE Guyer

[ALOHA RONNIE]

NEVER FORGET

.."TOM McSELFISH =

...Gov. BustaMENCHA"

........was THE Sign to behold at this weekend's California Republican Convention held in Playa Del Rey next to the Los Angeles International Airport. So I did.

...No Convention Endorsement came for California Governor, but a posted Convention Straw Poll showed ARNOLD with nearly ..80%.. of the votes verses a little over ..18%.. for TOM McCLINTOCK.

...No one backed down this weekend, though it was hoped one Candidate for California Governor would, with Recall Election Financier Congressman ISSA watching it all unfold right before his very eyes.

Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer / Republican Convention Witness

NEVER FORGET

[ETERNAL WARMING]

How is Schwarzenegger selfish, in your mind?

From the Convention speech:

I say: let’s unite for victory!

I tell people if you believe that California cannot afford three more years of losing jobs – then join me.

If you want to get politics out of education for the good of our children – then join me.

My fellow Republicans, if you want to get the Davis-Bustamante administration out of Sacramento and put in a Republican administration, then join me.

I believe we Republicans can do great things together!

http://www.joinarnold.com/en/press/pressdetail.php?id=113

[ETERNAL WARMING]

I'd vote for Davis before I'd see Ahhhnold in office.

Spoken like a true Patsy Brigadier. You will undoubtedly be voting for the Dimwit presidential nominee next year too because George Bush doesn't pass your 100% paleo purity test.

I guess you don't understand exaggeration.

(Neos should be disenfranchised due to their lack of wisdom.)

[UncleJeff]

I'd vote for Davis before I'd see Ahhhnold in office.

You raise an interesting point. Would actual Conservatives be better served by voting "No/McClintock"?? Seems to me as an outside observer that a weakened Davis would provide more opportunity to elect a Republican in 2006, maybe even one with coattails, than a nominal Republican taking over the current mess and getting blasted in 2006 for not fixing it.

I have my flame-proof BVDs on, so all the Ahhhnuld folks can just have at it...

[ETERNAL WARMING]

Seems to me as an outside observer that a weakened Davis would provide more opportunity to elect a Republican in 2006, maybe even one with coattails, than a nominal Republican taking over the current mess and getting blasted in 2006 for not fixing it.

Exactly. And coupled with the mess that years of Democratic agenda have done, I don't think a Republican can straighten it out...especially a RINO like Arnold. The failure would do irreparable harm to Republican interests for the foreseeable future. It would give the Democrats a platform for '06 and shift the blame from themselves.

[c-b 1]

Davis is only the Symptom of the problem, the problem is all the Marxist Communists in the Assembly, and the Senate. Have the voters figgured this out? Would a year of Mecha boy educate them in time for the next election?

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

I don't see anything selfish about that.

Selfish is knowing you can't win (and there can be little doubt that he does), but stubbornly refusing to allow a fellow Republican who can to save the state from the clutches of the Democrats to hold the office he wants for himself but can't have.

I'm not star struck (I'm in the entertainment field, and I have worked with celebrities...and I've never been a Schwarzenegger fan anyway); I didn't start out with an unfavorable impression of McClintock, but the longer he demonstrates that he does not love California enough to bow out really does bother me.

When President Bush was running, a reporter said of him that he saw a man who loved America more than he wanted to be president. McClintock would impress a lot of people if he allowed California a Republican governor - for the love of the state, and the love of the people. But it really doesn't look like he's selfless enough to do that.

[Young Rhino]

(Neos should be disenfranchised due to their lack of wisdom.)

Ah yes. The wisdom that drives paleos to consistently vote for losing candidates. Perot '92...Perot '96...Buchanan '00...another nutcase to be announced in '04.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

My apologies:

"Selfish is knowing you can't win (and there can be little doubt that he does), but instead stubbornly refusing to allow a fellow Republican who can to save the state from the clutches of the Democrats to do so, and to hold the office he wants for himself but can't have."

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

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[ETERNAL WARMING]

But he said he wouldn't raise taxes unless something came up.

LOL Yes...how silly of me. :0)

[ETERNAL WARMING]

There is still time, and McClintock's numbers are going up, not down like Arnolds. As people hear his message, it resounds. A pity he can't get the free press that the liberal media have given to Arnold.

The real decisions will come just before the election. I'm wondering if it isn't better to have Davis remain. The state is a mess and no Republican can straighten it out overnight. It requires a man of principle and a spine of steel...Arnold is none of those things. If he gets in office it will boomerang on the Republicans for the '06 elections. It will give the Democrats the opportunity to shift the blame because Republicans "didn't fix it." I think Republicans would be in a much stronger position to win in '06.

[xm177e2]

Why don't you think ARNOLD is the spoiler candidate sent in to sabotage the recall?

[ETERNAL WARMING]

I worked for and voted for Bush.

Wisdom is looking a little further down the road and respecting History as well. What seems a good fix today can be cancer in 20 years.

Havn't you noticed what electing Rinos and Neos has done? We've moved steadily Left for decades now. Republicans today are what Democrats of yesterday were. That's frightening on many levels. It has serious implications for our sovereignty and way of life in this country.

I've watched as freedom after freedom have been stolen from us. I've watched our society degenerate into the cesspool it is today. I'm watching our livlihoods disintegrate before my eyes. I'm watching our wages drop faster than the Dow. I'm watching our taxes go up to the point where they strangle us. I'm watching hidden taxes multiplying before my eyes for everything under the sun. I'm watching as politicians of both stripes sell us out.

You are correct that I will not be supporting Bush this time around and for the same reason I can't support Arnold.

The only way he'll see another vote from me is if Hillary runs.

I don't know who I'll vote for as no one has yet stepped forward. But I will no longer support a Rino...I love my kids too much and fear for their future. I love my country too much to see it handed over to Globalism and Oligarchy.

[buwaya]

Mecha - pronounced ME - CH (like Chicano) - A

mecha (the way they use it, in context) means fuse - like on a bomb.

[A2J]

but the longer he demonstrates that he does not love California enough to bow out really does bother me.

Then I suppose you hold that Jesus didn't love the world because He didn't "bow out" from going to the cross?

Maybe it's his love for California that drives McClintock to risk his political life in trying to stop Davis, Jr. (ala Rnuld) from taking the controls.

[buwaya]

Highly unlikely.

CA is heavily gerrymandered, and it is fundamentally democrat anyway.

The assembly is impossible.

Only statewide offices are likely for Republicans, and each one is a longshot.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

Why don't you think ARNOLD is the spoiler candidate sent in to sabotage the recall?

I'm always suspicious when the media tells me who I'm going to vote for. And Ahnold is the candidate they've chosen.

[strela]

Maybe it's his love for California that drives McClintock to risk his political life in trying to stop Davis, Jr. (ala Rnuld) from taking the controls.

LOL - you might have a small point there. With the new three strikes laws these days, losing a third election might indeed spell finito for McNugget's political ambitions.

Maybe he could take extension classes at the local community college in filling out campaign forms and fundraising techniques. Some "personal enrichment" stuff.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

CA is heavily gerrymandered, and it is fundamentally democrat anyway

If that's the case, then Arnold won't be elected either.