| I wish to extend an offer to draw up an agreement. The draft to be proffered by Alamo-Girl, the draft be posted in this thread, and to be refined by all parties willing to afterwards sign and abide by that agreement. The agreement will consist of accepted guidelines and the protections of all who sign will be shared amongst us all and enforced by us all. The final agreement will be put up on more than one website and distributed to all to make sure it isn't altered without the consent of all signators. Any newbies coming into the crevo threads, when their behavior appears to violate the agreement, will be given an opportunity to sign on and partake of its protections and blessings. Perhaps we can start a groundswell that exemplifies the true nature of Conservatives in their incessant desire to resolve issues rather than foment them. Cash aka ALS |
My apologies to anyone whom I forgot to ping
The basic problem is that the two sides are never going to agree on the object of knowledge or standards of evidence. Science, whether conducted by Christians, Hindus or atheists, seeks to find and quantify the regularities of nature, the aspects that are uniform over time. Religion looks for unique events that signify the hand of God. Science, by its nature, dismisses miracles, even when it can't explain a phenomenon. This is simply the way it works -- always assume that events are the result of uniform laws. The assumptions and thought processes of scientists are automatic in this regard.there really isn't ever going to be a science that seeks to prove miracles. The scientific mind is always going to assume that unexplainable phenomena are simply not yet understood.
Returning to the topic of the proposed agreement: We can tone down the rhetoric and remove name-calling from the threads, but we are not going to eliminate the friction caused by questioning each others sources and witnesses.