[Condorman]

It is the offense which is called “Christian bashing” and will surely continue to incite flame wars.

Does pointing out that the creationist camp (of any flavor) brings nothing to the science table count as "Christian bashing"?

[conservababeJen]

ALS emailed the following to me from work and asked that I post it on his behalf......

I wish to extend an offer to draw up an agreement. The draft to be proffered by Alamo-Girl, the draft be posted in this thread, and to be refined by all parties willing to afterwards sign and abide by that agreement.
The agreement will consist of accepted guidelines and the protections of all who sign will be shared amongst us all and enforced by us all.

The final agreement will be put up on more than one website and distributed to all to make sure it isn't altered without the consent of all signators.

Any newbies coming into the crevo threads, when their behavior appears to violate the agreement, will be given an opportunity to sign on and partake of its protections and blessings.

Perhaps we can start a groundswell that exemplifies the true nature of Conservatives in their incessant desire to resolve issues rather than foment them.

Cash aka ALS

My apologies to anyone whom I forgot to ping

[general_re]

Any offer on the table to declare pax if the "Christian bashing" ceases is worthless so long as there are posters for whom the mere act of challenging them is labeled "Christian bashing". It's one of those wonderfully flexible accusations that can be twisted to fit any situation, and for which the the veracity of the accusation lies entirely in the eye of the beholder - hence, there are no possible objective standards available for anyone to police their own posts and thereby avoid "Christian bashing".

For me, there is no possible truce until we have a firm, fair, and specific definition of what constitutes "Christian bashing". I am tired of the games being played, where it seems that simply disputing that Genesis is a literal account of Creation is sufficient to generate accusations of bigotry.

[js1138]

Does pointing out that the creationist camp (of any flavor) brings nothing to the science table count as "Christian bashing"?

Ping to 783.

For any agreement to work there needs to be some understanding of how science "thinks". There at least a couple of posts on this page indicating that scientific thinking is inherently anti-Christian, inherently evil, inherently anti-conservative.

This is, without using hot words, a form of name-calling. Any agreement that has a chance of working has to ban the tactic of conflating science (or religion) with evildoers, liberals, totalitarians. This is just name-calling in disguise.