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To: gore3000; Dataman; f.Christian; JesseShurun; NewLand; AndrewC; bondserv; Mr.Atos; Sloth; unspun; ...
Please take a moment to start at post #172, and read on.
The issues being addressed include and impact each of you.
Everyone has had dealings in this matter and your witnessing, opinions and evidence are an integral part in resolving this ongoing issue.

Thanks!
278 posted on 07/27/2003 11:30:55 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)
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To: ALS
bb ...

Which is: Whether or not it can be conceived by a rational mind that subjective experience enters into objective experience at some point "downstream" of the subjective experience.

It seems, deliberately or accidentally, that you are "invested" in an outcome that can only result from queering the question right up front: Your strong suggestion that merely proposing this question amounts to a refusal to engage in intelligent discussion.

But you seem reluctant to talk about that. I can only wonder: Why not? Maybe if you could get this question "right," then the "conflict" you note could be avoided or quickly resolved.


172 posted on 07/27/2003 4:16 PM PDT by betty boop

fC ...

thus we have the ... evo ' virtual ignore - troll basher ' --- mentality on the fr !
279 posted on 07/27/2003 11:59:06 PM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: ALS
No thanks......

I'll stay OUT of this food fight!
287 posted on 07/28/2003 6:17:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)
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To: ALS

From -->http://www.nps.gov/badl/newspaper/03Preamble.pdf

"Many cultures have their own unique story on how the earth was created. Scientists use fossils to interpret earth history and plant and animal evolution. These scientific concepts often conflict with many creation beliefs. The study of fossils and evolution is not a belief system. It is a scientific theory of what we observe in the natural world.

The National Park Service provides interpretation of paleontological resources based solely on current evolutionary theory because we are obligated by the First Amendment to the Constitution against promoting a particular religious view. "

Theories are the 'scientific' way of stating: "We BELIEVE thus......"

 

(are NOT conclusions made?)



289 posted on 07/28/2003 6:20:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)
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To: ALS
Sefer Yetzirah: The Book of Creation: In Theory and Practice
Aryeh Kaplan

http://www.servantsofthelight.org/Archives/QBL/Books/BW/Yetzirah_0.html

http://www.www.yashanet.com/reading.htm

756 posted on 07/29/2003 4:47:47 AM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (Free Your Mind...5:15 DEBARIM)
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