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Hello Patrick, I have been catching up to all the action this evening, being away for a few days. I just reached this post and was compelled to reply immediately.

Let's look at a review of the actual post you refer to and what really happened. Let's frame it in the words and questions you have asked ask A-G:

"But what I want to show you starts at post 556, when "NewLand" pings me with a link to a new thread he has started"

Well, let's check the accuracy of this first statement. Here is post #556 from that thread:

To: Dimensio

Dimensio, I think I am just going to love you even more because you need it. :)

556 posted on 07/09/2003 9:16 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (Evolution is the religion for men who want no accountability)
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Oops Patrick, you had the wrong #. You must have meant post #566...let's see that one:

To: goodseedhomeschool

You know the start of this thread? Patrick Henry has this list of names that he pinged (I guess that's what ya call it). None of the creationists were on the *ping.

OK, got it! That's what caused me to start the other thread...

Learn About The Bible Here

Check it out...

566 posted on 07/09/2003 9:20 PM PDT by NewLand [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 543 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]
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As everyone can see, I did not PING Patrick, I was merely pointing out this new thread to someone else, and that I was PINGing only like-minded Christians to the thread, I did not use that post for any other purpose. This is clear and irrefutable...because it is there to see for everyone and anyone and it is the truth.

But that's just the beginning to the fun here, stay tuned. Back to Patrick's post here and his questions to A-G:

Yet for some reason -- put your thinking cap on, A-Girl -- I was specifically pinged to see this thread, where I would see my warning (about flame wars in the evolution thread) being directed against me in a bible thread! Why was I pinged to see that?

Good question Patrick! Since we have already proved that I did not PING you in post #566 or any post for that matter anywhere in the Biology textbook hearings prompt science disputes [Texas] thread, let's move to the You Can Begin To Learn About The Bible Here thread in question for our answers:

First, here is the post where I "lampoon" Patrick's post, exactly as he said:
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To: chicagolady; ALS; JesseShurun; goodseedhomeschool; f.Christian; bondserv; Onelifetogive

Visitors to this thread should be aware that a small cadre of anti-religion (and especially anti-creation) people have perfected the practice of trolling for insults, so that when their provocative posts are answered, they can then complain of "abusive" behavior. They do this in the hope of having our threads pulled. Such people are a detriment to this website, and to the conservative cause. Everyone is therefore urged to NEVER respond to such posters. It can be difficult, because they are skilled at inciting flame wars; but it is only in this way that we can maintain a high standard of civil discourse, and preserve Jim Robinson's excellent forum as a place where true conservatives can gather.

9 posted on 07/09/2003 7:21 PM PDT by NewLand
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Hey, wait a minute! Note that I did not *PING* Patrick, I just PINGed a few other like-minded Christians that I wanted to draw to the thread.

So, the real question is... who actually PINGed Patrick?

Before we reveal that, let's review one more "statement" from Mr Henry in his post here to Alamo-Girl:

Why was I pinged to see that?
I'll tell you why. They intended for me to visit a bible thread and start making a fuss, so they could complain to Jim Robinson about how horrible I am, and what a "Christian basher" I am. Think about it, A-Girl. Why else copy my warning language, and then ping me to a thread I would otherwise never visit? Just to be friendly? Because they enjoy my company? Is there any alternative explanation for this except that I was being set up for an abuse-button hit? I may be paranoid, sure, but in that case there's another explanation for the situation. What is it?

Could it be...let's take a peek back at post #16 in You Can Begin To Learn About The Bible Here thread:
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To: PatrickHenry; All

I notice that he did not give credit where credit was due.

And we somehow come into these threads and disrupt?

Since when?

You guys can have a ball, we have no interest, have never had any interest and will continue NOT to have any interest in disrupting ANY religious thread.

16 posted on 07/09/2003 7:35 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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So Pat, it was your good friend, Mr Aric2000 who *PINGed* you to that thread.

Why was that, Pat? Could it be, to use your own words..."Look how they set me up, hoping I would bash"

And one last comment, since I've been forced to take the time to respond to your accusations, let's review one more "statement" from your post to A-G:

"My suspicion is that the whole thread was created to be nothing but a trap to get me banned. That's right; the whole thread was a fake facade. It wasn't about the bible, it was about getting evolution supporters banned. I can't prove that, and you may now suspect that I've gone off the deep end, but tell me this -- but what else explains what I've pointed out?"

I will let the readers, lurkers, maybe the radio and newspapers read this post... You Can Begin To Learn About The Bible Here and determine the TRUE nature and intent of that thread...it's easy! Just read for yourself all the posts (only 75) and you will clearly see the spirit, the exchanges, and the intent.

You may even notice a "diversionary" tactic from a well known evo who does visit the thread later on...

Alamo-Girl, I agree to abide by your contract. But I felt it was necessary and important to publish these facts, let alone to defend myself from such slanderous and unecessary accusations.

Thank you so much for your detailed response for the record! And thank you for agreeing to the draft agreement! Hugs!!!

So I take it you support my amendment in #1134?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/952079/posts?page=1134#1134

btw - excellent fact finding job you just did.
Indeed, the evo-tactic of creating threads for the implicit purpose of inciting christians is well known.

Diversionary? Diversionary?

Come on Newland, he was critiquing a quote, and asked you to verify the quote.

He was asking for verification, and you call it a diversionary tactic?

Come on.....

And yes, I pinged PH over to that thread, I saw that you had taken his quote, changed it around, and used it as your own. As if we had ANY interest at all in disrupting a religious debate, we don't, and have not.

You guys are the ones that like to come into a scientific discussion and start throwing religion around, us going into a religious discussion and start throwing science around would be just as stupid.

He asked you to VERIFY a quote that he found questionable, you couldn't, his point was made, his "diversionary tactic" was to bring you to the realization that someone had played fast and loose with the facts, and making you ask in your own mind, how many other times on that website had they done it.

Nothing diversionary about it, he was questioning the credibility of the site you quoted, and linked to, with facts, that is not diversionary, it is a proper question.

That was a good thread and a good post.

First, here is the post where I "lampoon" Patrick's post, exactly as he said:

You have to realize that people who haven't studied Abnormal Psych are likely to see bizarre behavior as sinister. Patrick simply misinterpreted, as I tried to explain to him when he brought it up on this thread. Echolalia is a symptom common in people who aren't living in the same world as the rest of us.