Pheobe Debates The Theory of Evolution

Original scene from the show... Friends. ^ | NA | NA

[Mr.Atos]

I was just lisening to Medved debating Creationism with Athiests on the air. I found it interesting that while Medved argued his side quite effectively from the standpoint of faith, his opponents resorted to condescension and beliitled him with statements like, "when it rains, is that God crying?" I was reminded of the best (at least most amusing)debate that I have ever heard on the subject of Creationism vs Evolution, albeit a fictional setting. It occurred on the show, Friends of all places between the characters Pheobe (The Hippy) and Ross (The Paleontologist). It went like this...

Pheebs: Okay...it's very faint, but I can still sense him in the building...GO INTO THE LIGHT MR. HECKLES!!

Ross: Whoa, whoa, whoa. What, uh, you don't believe in evolution? Pheebs: Nah. Not really. Ross: You don't believe in evolution? Pheebs: I don't know. It's just, ya know, monkeys, Darwin, ya know, it's a, it's a nice story. I just think it's a little too easy.

Ross: Uh, excuse me. Evolution is not for you to buy, Phoebe. Evolution is scientific fact. Like, like, the air we breathe, like gravity... Pheebs: Uh, okay, don't get me started on gravity.

Ross: You uh, you don't believe in gravity? Pheebs: Well, it's not so much that ya know, like I don't *believe* in it, ya know. It's just...I don't know. Lately I get the feeling that I'm not so much being pulled down, as I am being pushed.

Ross: How can you NOT BELIEVE in evolution? Pheebs: [shrugs] I unh-huh...Look at this funky shirt!!

Ross: Well, there ya go. Pheebs: Huh. So now, the REAL question is: who put those fossils there, and why...?

Ross: OPPOSABLE THUMBS!! Without evolution, how do YOU explain OPPOSABLE THUMBS?!? Pheebs: Maybe the overlords needed them to steer their spacecrafts!

Pheebs: Uh-oh! Scary Scientist Man!

Pheebs: Okay, Ross? Could you just open your mind like, *this* much?? Okay? Now wasn't there a time when the brightest minds in the world believed that the Earth was flat? And up until what, like, fifty years ago, you all thought the atom was the smallest thing, until you split it open, and this like, whole mess o' crap came out! Now, are you telling me that you are so unbelievably arrogant that you can't admit that there's a teeny, tiny possibility that you could be wrong about this?!?

Pheebs: I can't believe you caved. Ross: What? Pheebs: You just ABANDONED your whole belief system! I mean, before, I didn't agree with you, but at least I respected you. Ross: But uh.. Pheebs: Yeah...how...how are you gonna go in to work tomorrow? How...how are you gonna face the other science guys? How...how are you gonna face yourself? Oh! [Ross runs away dejected] Pheebs: That was fun. So who's hungry?

[Aric2000]

Told ya I'd get the next one!! ;)

[Doctor Stochastic]

...the dead do not procreate. ..

Of course. You are describing natural selection.

[ALS]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/952079/posts?page=718#718

[Aric2000]

And I thought you were turning over a brand new leaf, guess not, why am I not surprised.

[ALS]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/952079/posts?page=717#717

[ALS]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/952079/posts?page=910#910

[Alamo-Girl]

To start the negotiation:

Draft Agreement

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[ALS]

looks great - I'm in, assuming it's finalized

[ALS]

What was the intent of freepmailing me the contents of the crap in post #1097?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/952079/posts?page=1097#1097

[Heartlander]

No pamphlets, no bible, no dogma. I haven't found Jesus, but I haven't lost him either. :)

Very funny, but what did you find? I think you have dogma either way without all the pomp and circumstance that you (or the story) attribute(s) to Jesus.

You found ‘truth’ somewhere… Or ‘your’ truth somewhere…

You posted some humor so let us now laugh at your ‘sacred’ beliefs.

Come on, it’ll be ‘fun’!

[ALS]

ahhh, excuse me, it was compltely new crap.

Here's a joke for you, made me laugh my ass off, thought that I would share.
From Aric2000 | 07/29/2003 11:11 PM CDT new




A Pagan died and, much to her surprise, found herself at the Pearly
Gates facing St. Peter. He walked up to her and said, "Hello, and
welcome."
She stared at St. Peter in complete confusion. "Wait a minute," she
said. "I was supposed to end up in the Summerlands." He smiled. "Ah, you
must be one of our Pagan sisters. Follow me, please."

Peter gestured for her to follow him down a small path which went
through the gates and down a bit to the left. They walked for a short
while, then he stepped back and gestured her forward. Looking past his hand,
she saw the verdant fields and forests of her desired Summerlands. She saw
people feasting, dancing, and making merry, exactly as she expected.
While standing there in wonder, the Pagan happened to glance over to one
side and saw a small group of people near the edge of the Summerlands. The
people in the group were watching the revelers, but not joining them.
Instead, they were screaming and weeping piteously.

The Pagan looked at St. Peter. "Who are those people?"

St. Peter replied, "Them? They're fundamentalists. They're a bit
surprised to see you all there, so they stand there and carry on like
that all day."

"Why? Don't they have better things to do?" asked the Pagan.

Peter leaned conspiratorially toward her. "They don't really have a
choice. They're actually in Hell. God doesn't like being told what He
thinks."

---

and why would I find this funny?

[ALS]

check post 1111

he appears to be on a christian bashing jihad

[Aric2000]

Sorry, you were being an egotistical jerk, so I tossed it at you to get a reaction, I see that I got one.

You are so predictable, I sent it to a number of other people too, because I didn't think I should post it for all to see, but I was pretty sure in your zeal that you would do it for me, VOILA!! You did.

Thanks for posting it, I thought that it was darn funny!!

[ALS]

I had not said a word to you, and of course you are going to get a reaction, from everyone.

Do not send me any freepmail, let alone christian bashing ones about christians in hell while pagans are in heaven laughing.

getta life

[Doctor Stochastic]

No. Under no conditions will I let you try to dictate what I say about science.

[Aric2000]

Fundamentalist spree, NOT christian, the joke that you posted has EVERYTHING to do with Catholicism, not fundamentalism.

So no, NOT christianity in general, fundamentalist specifically.

And I am now done, I see that AG has indeed posted the contract so to speak, and I am willing to abide by it, but was pretty sure that you wouldn't.

Are you going to?

We'll find out.

[gore3000]

So whether you or others agree with my contention that truth and morals go together, you cannot deny that I have a strong case for it being so.-me-

I invite you to analyze your posts. You spend far more time asserting that you have made a case than you do making the case.

Excuse me, but are you denying that the actions of Communism, Nazism, and Clintonism were both immoral and based on lies? Are you denying that? Seems that is pretty strong proof for my contention and I do not need a whole book to full of verbiage to support it.

[ALS]

You'll have trouble sticking to the agreement if you are going to spew lies like fundamentalists aren't christians and thereby fair game to bash.

btw - check out the post below her agreement and get glasses

[Aric2000]

Excuse me, I am willing to abide by it up to a point, but the main reason that such a contract is necassary is due to one poster specifically.

If that poster, and he knows who he is, is willing to abide by it, I will consider it.

But if he continues as he is doing, then no, I will not abide by it.

[ALS]

If you can't abide by it, do not sign it.

Frankly, I don't think you are capable of either understanding or abiding by it, especially in light of the posts since.