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DeLay: "Zero chance" for (Assault Weapons Ban) renewal passing in House
AWBanSunset.com ^ | 5/9/03 | Stuart Roy

Posted on 05/09/2003 2:27:22 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: The FRugitive
"HOWEVER, while I won't hold it against Bush at the polls, I do hold it against him personally for takeing that stand, even if he was just "playing politics"."

You don't play politics with our Constitution. Until Bush renounces his anti-gun and anti-Constitution position he will NEVER receive my vote. I will however send money to Tom Delay's re-election campaign.

41 posted on 05/09/2003 3:16:16 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: The KG9 Kid
We'll see how resilient Tom Delay and the GOP is after a few more remotely-controlled psychos shoot up universities and playgrounds at the most convenient moments during anti-firearms legislation in Washington.

No sooner said than done:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/908830/posts

42 posted on 05/09/2003 3:17:14 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty" not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: applemac_g4
The terrorists have no problem violating the law to get their arms.

9/11 is a good reason not to have the AWB.
43 posted on 05/09/2003 3:17:21 PM PDT by The FRugitive
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To: FreedomCalls
Clickable link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/908830/posts

44 posted on 05/09/2003 3:18:09 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty" not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: TexanToTheCore
One of te reasons that AlGore's fascination with the "alpha male" protrayal was so intense is that Rove and W took away many of the issues that AlGore had planned on using. Between Naomi Wolfe, steroids and growth hormone (anyone who has lifted weights knows that AlGore couldn't have bulked up as quickly as he did without some help from the Chemistry Department, especially at his age.), a large wardrobe from Land's End and airbrushed crotches, he almost pulled it off. His campaign appeared to be more of a fashion show than a serious camppaign.
45 posted on 05/09/2003 3:19:12 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore
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To: applemac_g4
Preserving the assault weapons ban makes it just that much harder for terrorists to obtain tools of the trade

You're kidding, right?

46 posted on 05/09/2003 3:19:31 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Go Tommy, Go


47 posted on 05/09/2003 3:20:14 PM PDT by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America, treasonous everytime they speak)
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To: Godebert
You don't play politics with our Constitution.

Since when! Isn't it about time you had a dip in the reality pool?

48 posted on 05/09/2003 3:21:23 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: FreedomCalls
How did the media learn it was a "machine-gun"? LeKisha told them so!

LeKisha Spencer, 28, who works in a first-floor cafeteria said, she heard a bang and a saw a man walking inside the building toward the front. "He had a machine gun, book bag, camouflage shirt, military green hat, white pants and a bookbag," she said. "I didn't see his face. "

49 posted on 05/09/2003 3:22:29 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: TexanToTheCore
Actually AlGore's campaign was more like a Presidential campaign for "Fabio". The only things missing were red suspenders and break-away pants.
50 posted on 05/09/2003 3:24:33 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore
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To: elbucko
"Isn't it about time you had a dip in the reality pool?"

If Bush is willing to wipe his @$$ with the Constitution of the United States of America to try and gain a few soccer mom votes.....then he won't be getting my vote.

51 posted on 05/09/2003 3:28:14 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: applemac_g4
"If we have this type of weapon readily available for sale within the United States, it seems to me that it would make it that much easier for a terrorist group to infiltrate the country unarmed, and then acquire the necessary tools to carry out an attack. "

You need to educate yourself about what is banned. Semi-automatic handguns and rifles are still legal. The banned guns are simply guns that look military. Items like hand grips and bayonet lugs are the only difference. If you want to buy an AR15 or AK47, you can. They aren't banned. If you want a handgun with a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds, you can get one today.

When people call this an ugly gun ban, they are accurate. An "assault rifle" is an automatic weapon. The "asault weapon ban" simply banned a few ugly semi-automatic guns and new, high capacity magazines. Since there are millions of old high capacity magazines that still work in the new guns, that ban is without teeth.

It was (and is) a ridiculous law that was meant to get the camel's nose under the tent. It's time to kick the camel out. Eliminating this law will not make it easier to get an effective semi-automatic rifle or pistol.
52 posted on 05/09/2003 3:28:17 PM PDT by Poser
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To: The FRugitive
America is lost without it.
I'll say. No man or woman is truly free who does not own and operate effectively a rocket propelled grenade launcher or shoulder mounted, laser guided anti-aircraft missile.
53 posted on 05/09/2003 3:29:37 PM PDT by Asclepius (as above, so below)
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To: TexanToTheCore
My question was rhetorical. I had already answered it in my post. You said the dems will say, "Well, it was killed in committee. What could we do?" Bush's tactic appears to be the exact same thing. Why? Because he is pandering to the very same liberal groups.

Also, I do not see how this issue has been removed from the debate. In fact, the debate (within his base) began as soon as Bush said that he would sign it. I do not think that it is a brilliant strategy to alienate a large faction of the base. If Bush knew that it was not going to ever cross his desk, then a good strategy would have been not to say anything at all. But then he wouldn't be able to have it both ways.

Furthermore, Bush said that he would sign the renewal BEFORE the Republicans ever had control of both the house and the senate.

If it were to reach his desk, then Bush would sign it. That alone is a matter of concern, whether it reaches his desk or not. Whether it reaches his desk or not, he is on record as saying that he supports it as a good thing.

54 posted on 05/09/2003 3:29:41 PM PDT by Fraulein
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To: Godebert
"He had a machine gun, book bag, camouflage shirt, military green hat, white pants and a bookbag,"

A book bag and a bookbag, and maybe a book-bag. She didn't see his face because the camouflage shirt was on fire or he was firing the "machinegun." White pants a dead give-away: yet another frustrated graduate student who has just wasted 2-5 years of his life in a fruitless search for professional recognition.

55 posted on 05/09/2003 3:33:05 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: applemac_g4
Except the laws only stop the law abiding. The terrorists all come from countries that were supplied by Russia, they can smuggle in AK47s by the truck load. Very few violent crimes are performed with legally owned weapons, last stat I saw on assault weapons was that NO violent crimes have ever been performed with legally owned assault weapons.
56 posted on 05/09/2003 3:33:41 PM PDT by discostu (A cow don't make ham)
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To: applemac_g4
I hate to be curt but you don't know what you are talking about.

So called Assault weapons are not machine guns.

Criminals can easily get machine guns. The ban on so called Assault weapons would not slow them down one bit.

57 posted on 05/09/2003 3:37:26 PM PDT by Pylot
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To: Asclepius
Now you're talkin'! :D
58 posted on 05/09/2003 3:37:33 PM PDT by The FRugitive
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To: Godebert
A rare appropriate and properly quoted use of the quote. Congrats, most people trim "essential" and "temporary" and completely miss use it.
59 posted on 05/09/2003 3:37:55 PM PDT by discostu (A cow don't make ham)
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To: Godebert
If Bush is willing to wipe.....then he won't be getting my vote.

So, who are you going to vote for Bozo, the clown. I suppose you're one of those those that threw the country to Clinton by voting for Ross Perot.

If you're young, grow up. If you're old, take your meds and let the family make out your absentee ballot.

60 posted on 05/09/2003 3:43:36 PM PDT by elbucko
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