DeLay: "Zero chance" for (Assault Weapons Ban) renewal passing in House

AWBanSunset.com ^ | 5/9/03 | Stuart Roy

[husky ed]

You shouldn't be allowed to vote. You don't have the brains God gave one of Tom Harkin's dung heaps.

You shouldn't be allowed to breed. And if you come around me I'll make sure you don't.

[husky ed]

Go back and read what I said. I said oath of office of President. Not of anyother office.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

You shouldn't be allowed to breed. And if you come around me I'll make sure you don't.

You just proved you don't have enough brains to be allowed to vote. Thanks for the affirmation.

[husky ed]

Okay dickhead, what did I say that started you on this pissing match.

[husky ed]

Here's what I wrote to start with if you forgot. Show me where I'm wrong.

Delay will do his job.

To bad Bush didn't do his and say he "wouldn't" sign any unconstitutional laws and would have those already on the books thrown out.

He's the one that took the oath of office of President, not Delay.

And the last line is office of President. Yes I know that all elected officals take an oath, but I am only talking about the President. He is the one that signs the bills into laws.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

To(o) bad Bush didn't do his and say he "wouldn't" sign any unconstitutional laws and would have those already on the books thrown out.

You keep proving you're too dumb to be allowed to vote.

You have seen how the Democrats don't advance their socialist agenda by quoting Marx. They talk about everything but Marx, and they get us there without most of the idtiot voters having a clue. They hide behind words like "fairness" and "inclusiveness," because who could be against those things?

Still you haven't taken the hint.

All that is necessary to Sunset AWB is for the House to ignore it, but that's not good enough for you, no sir! You want to pound your chest and scream "Constitution, Founding Fathers, Armed Revolution" which is going to alienate the vast majority of voters who don't know jack *%&$ about anything except that they don't like people who do.

Thank God you're not in charge.

[husky ed]

Who the hell is talking about the House? We're talking about the President of the United States.
I've already talked to my Rep. about the AWB and he is fully against it.

But happens if/when/maybe a bill does reach the President's desk. It doesn't matter that a Republican is sitting behind it. Because he has gone on record saying he is going to sign it.

And don't say a bill won't make it that far, as the Dems have got them lined up at the door. And the liberal press is going to be right there to help, reporting on every shooting they can find.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Who the hell is talking about the House?

Bush has nothing to do with renewing the AWB unless Congress sends him a bill.

If the House does not approve a version of the AWB renewal, it goes no further, genius.

[husky ed]

Okay, don't take a stand on this. Then when the next part of the Constitution gets ripped to shreds don't take a stand on that either because it maybe a Republican President you want to appease.

Just don't come crying to the people who did take a stand, when you find that you've lost just as much. It just took a little longer.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Then when the next part of the Constitution gets ripped to shreds don't take a stand on that either because it maybe a Republican President you want to appease.

What is your objective?

To see the AWB die?

Or to have Bush et al beat their chests and bellow "Constitution... Second Amendment... Founding Fathers?"

You can't have both.

Once Bush et al show their hand the DemoncRATS have a clear field of fire and the AWB will be renewed.

Politics is not a religion. It is a game. Treating it like a religion is a sacrilege. You are a pagan

[Sender]

The gungrabbers play 'gottcha' on logic, and win.

True enough. I agree that it should not be a logic battle between full auto and semi auto or any battle about cosmetic appearance. "Shall not be infringed" is absolute.

Realistically though, do you really think we can win by taking a stand that all restrictions including NFA are unconstitutional? While it's undoubtedly true, don't you think that claiming that full auto/semi auto makes no difference will lose us ground as the screaming libs shake the soccer moms crying "now they want to put machine guns on the streets!"

I am only interested in keeping and expanding our RKBA.

[tpaine]

Sender, your post #85 was a great example of why you, and 'we' all lose by conceding that it is 'reasonable' to ban machine guns, then argue against 'regulating' semi-autos that function the same if the trigger is pulled fast enough..
The gungrabbers play 'gottcha' on logic, and win.

They have won in CA to all intents/purposes..
It is doubtful that the USSC will even hear the 9th Circuits 'collective right' BS, and even Bush/Ashcroft agree that prohibitive 'regulations', as above, are constitutional. - We are losing our RKBA's in a battle of a thousand cuts..
96 posted by tpaine

True enough. I agree that it should not be a logic battle between full auto and semi auto or any battle about cosmetic appearance. "Shall not be infringed" is absolute.
Realistically though, do you really think we can win by taking a stand that all restrictions including NFA are unconstitutional?

Obviously, if we would have done that back in '34, we wouldn't be in this mess.

While it's undoubtedly true, don't you think that claiming that full auto/semi auto makes no difference will lose us ground as the screaming libs shake the soccer moms crying "now they want to put machine guns on the streets!"

It has to be stopped. - Appeasement & calm reason have not worked. It is insanity to continue pretending that it will.

The USSC, and the political PTB have to be convinced in no uncertain terms that they MUST overrule the 9th circuit, to avoid a constitutional crisis.
That will be a messy task, imo, not a polite one.

I am only interested in keeping and expanding our RKBA.

Time to take a firm stand that ALL the infringments to date are clearly repugnant to the constitution, as written. -- Let those who want change lobby for an amendment..

[God Bless the USA 2]

Congratulations you have exhibited your absorbtion of the liberal media's lies. No gun control in any country has ever deterred people bent on destruction from executing their desire to harm innocent civilians. Gun control laws however have always done an excellent job of taking guns out of law abiding citizens hands while leaving criminals with theirs.

Our Founding Fathers understood that a God fearing law abiding well armed population was the best homeland defense policy this country could have - both from enemies within and enemies from without. ANY infringement on the 2nd ammendment can only serve to help criminals (both in governement and the population) and hurt those that truly love this country and our way of life.

ALL gun control is unconstitutional.