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The Unmaking of Conservatism
http://www.sobran.com/columns/2003/030424.shtml ^

Posted on 05/09/2003 4:14:34 AM PDT by Continental Op

The Unmaking of Conservatism

Joe Sobran

April 24, 2003 Conservatism — or at least something calling itself conservatism — is now fashionable, and those who claim the label are triumphant today. Their government has just won a war, and they can afford to gloat not only over liberals, but over an older breed of conservatives who are suspicious of big government even when (or especially when) it’s winning.

When I began to consider myself a conservative, back in 1965, conservatism didn’t seem to have much of a future. Lyndon Johnson had just crushed Barry Goldwater in what looked like a final showdown between the philosophies of limitless and limited government. I was clearly enlisting in a losing cause.

But that, in a way, was what attracted me to conservatism. It was a philosophy of reflective losers, men whose principles and memories gave them resistance to the conquering fad and its propaganda. Such men hoped for victory, naturally, but they were fighting heavy odds, fierce passions, and powerful interests. They were ready for defeat, but they weren’t going to adjust their principles in order to win. They knew that if you win power by giving up your principles, you’ve already lost.

I was a college student, and my reading in English literature had already predisposed me to conservatism. The great writers I admired — Shakespeare, Jonathan Swift, Samuel Johnson, Edmund Burke, John Henry Newman, G.K. Chesterton, C.S. Lewis, George Orwell, Michael Oakeshott — were all notable for opposing the fads and enthusiasms of their times. They took being in the minority for granted. They even treasured solitude and meditation. Their minds and hearts were closed to statist propaganda and the passions it sought to incite, and they were prepared to endure abuse and libel for refusing to join the herd — especially what has been wittily called “the herd of independent minds.”

It soon turned out that the Goldwater campaign marked only the beginning, not the end, of a powerful new conservative movement, which astonished itself by managing to get one of its own, Ronald Reagan, elected president in 1980. Few had imagined this possible in 1965.

But by winning power, the conservative movement began to loose its grip on conservative principles. It had hoped to reverse the gains of liberalism — not only Johnson’s Great Society, but Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal, both of which had violated America’s constitutional tradition of strictly limited and federal government. Now it quietly dropped its original goals.

As a powerful movement, conservatism also attracted new members who were more interested in power than in principle. Some of these were called “neoconservatives” — admirers of Roosevelt and recent supporters of Lyndon Johnson who cared nothing for limited government and the U.S. Constitution. Few of them, if any, had voted for Goldwater.

The chief common ground between the conservatives and the neocons was an anti-Communist foreign policy. All talk of deeper principles — and of repealing the welfare state — was discreetly dropped for the sake of harmony within the movement and political victory.

The conservatives wanted to keep the neocons within the movement. In this they succeeded only too well. Today the neocons have not only stayed; they have taken over the movement and pushed the principled conservatives out — or cowed them into silence, which comes to the same thing.

The older conservatives were wary of foreign entanglements and opposed on principle to foreign aid. But these are the very things the neocons favor most ardently; in fact, they are the very things that define neoconservatism and separate it from genuine conservatism.

As the neocon Max Boot recently wrote, “Support for Israel [is] a key tenet of neoconservatism.” He failed to name any other “key” tenets, because there aren’t any. War against Arab and Muslim regimes — enemies of Israel — is what it’s all about. Reagan’s all-out support for Israel, when Jimmy Carter was toying with Palestinian rights, is what won him neocon support in 1980.

A Rip Van Winkle conservative who had dozed off in 1965 would wake up in 2003 to find a movement that has almost nothing to do with the creed he professed when he last closed his eyes. It also has nothing to do with the conservative temper we find in the great writers of the past. It has everything to do with a shallow jingoism and war propaganda. It has become the sort of hot fad wise conservatives used to avoid, back when wise conservatives still defined conservatism.


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To: Consort
Joke it up sunshine. But the difference between 10,000 men enforcing unconstitutional laws and 5,000 men doing it is the same thing. The laws are unconstitutional and it's still pulling tax dollars out of my pocket
81 posted on 05/12/2003 7:33:25 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: JohnGalt; rdb3; Poohbah; dighton; Grampa Dave; Chancellor Palpatine
Thank you for exposing what your really seem to think about some of these people.

You prove just what I have suspected about the paleos all along. They seem to think some folks can't handle freedom due to an accident of birth that has them living in Tehran as opposed to New York.

On the other hand, neo-conservatives happen to have the strange notion that Thomas Jefferson meant what he wrote when he said "all men are created equal" and had inalienable rights to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" - rights that came from God, not any government.

You grossly underestimate those people. Take a look at Eastern Europe and Japan if you want to see how wrong you are about how well people can handle freedom.
82 posted on 05/12/2003 7:39:14 AM PDT by hchutch (America came, America saw, America liberated; as for those who hate us, Oderint dum Metuant)
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To: JohnGalt
You're confusing the decay of a culture (to which we, supposedly superior white Americans are immune, although clearly we are not) with an inability of people to embrace the concepts of freedom, limited government, and democratic pluralism.

But that's OK -- I know where you're coming from. Exactly where you're coming from.

84 posted on 05/12/2003 7:43:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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To: JohnGalt; B. A. Conservative; billbears
One could make the argument that we are simply casting pearls before swine, but these are things that need to be said. Until we actually see a decrease in the size and scope of government, all their talk about the importance of winning elections is meaningless. What difference will my vote make if, either way, I'm guaranteed a leader who will continue to push for bigger government? At least Democrats are honest about their desire to see government grow.

NO matter how they try to present it, government expansion with a Republican majority in Washington is still government expansion. Why is that such a difficult concept for some people to grasp? With some of the lame arguments presented here you'd think these people would actually take pleasure in being smashed over the head with a hammer as long as it was a Republican wielding the hammer. It just doesn't make any sense.....or maybe I'm just too stupid to see the brilliance of their logic.

85 posted on 05/12/2003 7:44:21 AM PDT by sheltonmac
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To: Cincinatus
Yup, and it rejects the very ideals upon which Thomas Jefferson wrote one of the most influenetial documents in history, if you want my unvarnished opinion.
86 posted on 05/12/2003 7:44:40 AM PDT by hchutch (America came, America saw, America liberated; as for those who hate us, Oderint dum Metuant)
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To: hchutch
If you subscribe to the French theory of rights as abstractions rather than tradtions, you are correct.


87 posted on 05/12/2003 7:49:55 AM PDT by JohnGalt (They're All Lying)
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To: billbears
But the difference between 10,000 men enforcing unconstitutional laws and 5,000 men doing it is the same thing.
10,000 people cost a lot more of your tax dollars than does 5,000.
The laws are unconstitutional and it's still pulling tax dollars out of my pocket
No law is unconstitutional until it is declared to be so. All laws on the books have to be obeyed, and enforced at a cost, even if they are "unconstitutional", until repealed or declared unconstitutional.
And you accuse me of joking? Again, size matters.
88 posted on 05/12/2003 7:51:08 AM PDT by Consort
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To: Jacvin
If all Conservatives got into the process and actually worked elections, Rino's would never survive the Republican primary process.

You have that exactly right. And proof of it is in Pennsylvania's primary where conservative Toomey has RINO Specter talking and voting like a conservative.

If we could put up real conservatives against Rinos in every primary, we'd be able to keep them in line.

89 posted on 05/12/2003 7:57:08 AM PDT by Temple Owl
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To: JohnGalt
The Declaration of Independence refutes your assertion. I strongyl suggest you re-read that document?
90 posted on 05/12/2003 7:57:39 AM PDT by hchutch (America came, America saw, America liberated; as for those who hate us, Oderint dum Metuant)
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To: Woahhs
If it was not for Charles Martel the entire European Continent would have been Moslem now, and so is America!
92 posted on 05/12/2003 8:02:13 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: hchutch
Well, without a doubt, this article and the elitist writer deserve the following award:


93 posted on 05/12/2003 8:03:05 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Free Republic, where leftist liars are exposed 24/7!)
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To: hchutch
Which assertion?

Are you saying that Jefferson was not influenced by French Enlightment Era intellectuals?

Rights do not exist as abstractions; the best Jefferson could do was tie rights back to praxeology, which is a kin you and I both claiming the title of conservative libertarians and yet having radically different views about the rules that govern men.


94 posted on 05/12/2003 8:04:33 AM PDT by JohnGalt (They're All Lying)
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To: Grampa Dave
Amen to that.
95 posted on 05/12/2003 8:05:06 AM PDT by hchutch (America came, America saw, America liberated; as for those who hate us, Oderint dum Metuant)
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To: Consort
This board is a respectable venue for exchanging ideas, not insults. If you are unable to politely discuss ther subject matter, please stay away.
96 posted on 05/12/2003 8:08:23 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: hchutch
Thank you for exposing what your really seem to think about some of these people.

You prove just what I have suspected about the paleos all along. They seem to think some folks can't handle freedom due to an accident of birth that has them living in Tehran as opposed to New York.

On the other hand, neo-conservatives happen to have the strange notion that Thomas Jefferson meant what he wrote when he said "all men are created equal" and had inalienable rights to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" - rights that came from God, not any government.

You grossly underestimate those people. Take a look at Eastern Europe and Japan if you want to see how wrong you are about how well people can handle freedom.

And thank you for demonstrating the complete and utter ignorance neocons have when it comes to history. First of all, the ability people have to "handle freedom" depends much on the culture in which they were raised. I'm sure you've heard the example of a captive animal being set free only to end up walking around in an area the size of the cage it once inhabited.

Secondly, Thomas Jeferson not only talked about inalienable rights, but he also warned against the dangers of big government. If you leave the goal of shrinking government out of the equation (which is exactly what neocons do, since winning elections is their main objective), then it makes no difference who's in charge--the end result is the same.

Thirdly, you cannot compare apples to oranges. The success of democratic principles in countries like Japan cannot be compared to countries like Iraq. As for Eastern Europe, I wouldn't list that as a shining example of the triumph of liberty. Remember the caged animal? Most of those nations are very close to reverting back to communism.

97 posted on 05/12/2003 8:08:53 AM PDT by sheltonmac
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To: philosofy123
Your outrage is selective.
98 posted on 05/12/2003 8:21:11 AM PDT by Consort
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To: sheltonmac
Ignorance of history?

If thoughts like your last post makes you feel better about what is, at best, stupidity, go ahead and think them. Go ahead and continue to whine. But the paleos are being seen for what they are, and they are rightly being rejected.

That must be why Sobran and others reacted so harshly to David Frum's article. The truth hit hard, and it hurt pretty bad, didn't it?
99 posted on 05/12/2003 8:23:33 AM PDT by hchutch (America came, America saw, America liberated; as for those who hate us, Oderint dum Metuant)
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To: Consort
No
100 posted on 05/12/2003 8:29:44 AM PDT by philosofy123
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