Wishing won't make it so, Dataman. New evidence comes out every day that pounds a nail in the coffin of creationism. The combination of evidence in the tripod of astrophysics, geophysics and biology is more than enough to disprove all versions of YEC, OEC and the lack of a scientific theory for intelligent design makes me doubt that there will be anything meaningful coming from that branch of thought. Boastful wishing isn't going to counteract evidence.
Be worthy of your screen name. The evidence isn't a problem provided it's not the frequent manufactured evidence often called hoaxes. It's the interpretation of the evidence that is the issue.
Yes that is very true but I think some miss this point.
I think a big problem is that people try to force religion and science together on this issue and you can't do it.
A faith or Religion has to be absolute. There is a conclusion first and then you go and look for the evidence after. But no matter what the conclusion stands. Thus, to people who believe the bible is God's word and such, creation is absolute and cannot be disputed. For if you dispute creation then you would have dispute the bible (the word of God). That could trigger a loss of God and a loss of faith to some. The thought of no after life would freak some people right out of their wits. Thus, defending creation as absolute as indicated in the bible is of utmost importance to them (rightly or wrongly of course).
Science is a little different. Science does not require a conclusion first and then an attempt to defend the conclusion at all costs. There is a hypothesis created. Then a methodolgy is created to attempt to prove the hypothesis. One then makes observations on the experiment and based on the observations creates a discussion and then reaches a conclusion(s). Then it all starts all over again as peers review the work.
At this point someone has created a theory of evolution. It is not "absolute". Science is designed to test that theory over and over and to obtain evidence. The theory may be disgarded, adjusted or even proven to be true. It may take time with experiment after experiment in several fields of science such as biology, microbiology, geoscience etc.. But no matter what scienctists who are looking into the theory should not conclude first like all creationists must do.
Of course Christians who consider the bible as the word of God also must belong to the "flat circular (2 dimension) earth society" and believe people with leprosy were "cleaned" by Jesus instead of healed. Just as creation is absolute to a Christian who believes the bible is the word of God, so are these two bible points as well. Using science (as the Greeks of the day knew)to test different theories showed that the world is more "spherical" (3-D) in shape and that leprosy is only a bacteriological disease that is now called Hansen's disease that can be "healed". But Christians who believe the bible is the word of God, must not dispute any of these bible principles since to do so would be to loose faith and the after life.
I guess my points are that people need to critically think and read and separate their absolute faith from the testing approach offered by science.
hawk