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To: Ichneumon
The responses to Dr. Behe's revolutionary work from the practioners of "normal" Evolutionary science have been pathetic.-ghekko-

Horse manure. There have been many excellent responses to Behe's errors. Again, see my earlier post for just a sampling.

There have been thousands of responses to Behe from evolutionists. However, there is not a single REFUTATION of the irreducible complexity of the bacterial flagellum. Since you have already shown your total inability to discuss any sort of scientific questions and your lack of judgement in scientific matters, your opinion on this matter is of no value at all. Fact is that no one has shown how over 40 genes, not used for anything else, could come together for the purpose of giving a bacteria movement.

495 posted on 02/25/2003 7:24:55 PM PST by gore3000 (Evolution is whatever lie you want it to be.)
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To: gore3000
There have been thousands of responses to Behe from evolutionists.

Oh yes, and with good reason.

However, there is not a single REFUTATION of the irreducible complexity of the bacterial flagellum.

Sure there has -- go back and reread those links again. Here's what it boils down to: The "REFUTATION" (as you put it) of Behe's flagellum example is, "Behe has not demonstrated that the flagellum *is* actually "irreducibly complex".

Personally, I don't feel particularly compelled to work up a serious rebuttal to Behe's "feelings" about the matter. If Behe wants to believe that flagella are unevolvable, he's welcome to. I'm not going to lose any sleep over the matter until he claims to be able to *demonstrate* that his feelings are correct.

If *you* think you can demonstrate that they are "irreducible" -- that there is absolutely no possible pathway by which a working flagellum could arise through stepwise modification of more primitive structures which served some (repeat *some*) useful purpose for the organism which had it -- then let's see it.

But I'm afraid that just saying, "it looks too complex to me to have evolved because I have a feeling that evolution can't produce things that complex" isn't an argument, it's just a declaration of your opinion.

Since you have already shown your total inability to discuss any sort of scientific questions and your lack of judgement in scientific matters, your opinion on this matter is of no value at all.

Do all creationists have that on a keyboard macro or something?

655 posted on 02/27/2003 12:06:12 AM PST by Ichneumon
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