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Posted on 02/17/2003 9:27:11 PM PST by TLBSHOW
Who's with President Bush?
President Bush has characterized the choice to be made in this war on terror: "Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists." The stark clarity of this binary decision has served the United States well in marshaling a large number of nations in the fight against al Qaeda and a smaller, but still ample, number for the next phase of this war: the liberation of Iraq.
Regrettably, in the months since September 11, 2001, people who have made no secret of their sympathy for terrorists, provided them financial support, excused their murderous attacks and/or sought to impede the prosecution of the war against them have repeatedly been put in the company of the President. In other words, individuals and organizations who appear to be "with the terrorists" have time and again been allowed to be with the President in the White House and elsewhere.
For example: o On September 20, 2001 -- just nine days after the deadly attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon -- Shaykh Hamza Yusuf was the Muslim representative in a small ecumenical gathering held in the Oval Office.
At the same time, FBI agents were trying to interview him at his house in California since he had declared two days before the attack: "This country is facing a terrible fate....This country stands condemned. It stands condemned like Europe stood condemned because of what it did -- and lest people forget that Europe suffered two world wars after conquering the Muslim lands." His wife told the incredulous agents Yusuf wasn't home, he was with the President. o Six days later, President Bush met in the Roosevelt Room with a Muslim imam by the name of Muzammil H. Siddiqi. Siddiqi is a long-time board member of several organizations in the United States funded by, and closely tied to, Saudi Arabia's radical state religion known as Wahhabism. Two of these groups, including one where Siddiqi still sits on the board, were raided in March 2002 by Federal authorities in pursuit of terrorist financing.
This presidential meeting was all the more puzzling since the imam had shown his true colors by claiming, at a rally the previous October: "America has to learn...If you remain on the side of injustice, the wrath of God will come.
Please, all Americans. Do you remember that? Allah is watching everyone. God is watching everyone. If you continue doing injustice, and tolerate injustice, the wrath of God will come." o On September 17, 2001, President Bush paid a visit to the mosque in Washington. There he was photographed flanked by Nihad Awad, the executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).
CAIR has long been an admirer and public defender of terrorist organizations whose attacks against even innocent women and children it sees as legitimate acts of "liberation." Awad has personally declared, "I am a supporter of the Hamas movement." o Also in the picture with President Bush at the mosque was Khaled Saffuri, currently chairman of an organization called the Islamic Institute, which he co-founded with conservative activist Grover Norquist.
Saffuri previously served as the development director of the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, a supporter of the Palestine Liberation Organization when it made no bones about using terrorism for political purposes. He went on to become deputy director of the radical American Muslim Council (AMC), under then-director Abduraman Alamoudi -- a publicly declared supporter of Hamas and Hezbollah, whose statements of solidarity with these groups prompted the Bush 2000 campaign to return his contributions. Under Saffuri's leadership, the Islamic Institute has attacked the Bush Administration's investigations of radical Muslim groups and closures of organizations suspected of funding terrorists.
The Institute has been funded by groups raided in the above-mentioned terrorist financing investigations. It lobbied intensively against portions of the USA Patriot Act. And Saffuri has personally denounced the President's listing of the Holy Land Foundation as a charity that supported terrorist organizations. He has acknowledged sponsoring the children of suicide bombers through the Foundation, even after its closure by the government.
In addition to the President, a number of his senior subordinates -- including Cabinet officers -- have met, in some cases more than once, with members of the aforementioned and other organizations with troubling attitudes towards jihadist terrorists. A particularly bizarre instance was FBI Director Robert Mueller’s keynote address last year to the American Muslim Council.
The AMC has a long record of activities hostile to the Bush Administration’s prosecution of the war on terror. It has even urged Muslims not to cooperate with the FBI! Nonetheless, according to a press release dated last Thursday, Mr. Mueller has invited the AMC’s chairman, Dr. Yahya Mossa Basha, to attend an upcoming meeting with him and “leaders of major Muslim and Arab-American organizations.”
It is very much in the President's interest -- and the Nation's -- that moderate, law-abiding, peace-loving and patriotic American Muslims be embraced and empowered by the Bush Administration and all those who support it in waging a war on terror, not on Islam.
To do so, however, the Administration must not allow those who are “with” its enemies in that struggle to continue being with the President and his team.
And of course, you are the be all, end all of what is right and good, versus what is wrong and evil?
I'll stand before God for judgement on my own, thank you.
You are misguided.
I will ask you again to quote me on that.
If you can't do so, you're a liar.
You're a great one to be calling people "thread nannies."
And I am not trolling Toddie; I'm merely asking him to explain HIS OWN WORDS; the fact that he won't should tell you a lot about his principles.
Good. Just wanted to know, cause you don't act like it. False accusations, and distortion of what others say is NOT usually of a characteristic of a true follower of Christ. Maybe you should work on that.
(btw, I'm not a Southern Baptist, but I AM saved by the blood of the Lamb.....just like my President).
482 posted on 02/19/2003 6:14 PM PST by justshe
Says it all, doesn't it? Whew!
I am a conservative. I make no apologies. Call it whatever you want.
TBLSHOW takes issues and stirs up people by inferring that although he really likes the President, Bush has failed, sold out, caved, etc. He does this over and over again, and yet in other instances claims to be a firm Bush supporter.
Such a person needs to firmly decide his position and not simply be bombing the site with one divisive thread after another. Howlin called him on this tactic, and those of us who are here who are also criticizing are in agreement with her.
We are now over 500 replies and TBLSHOW has yet to answer simple questions about his beliefs. I think that pretty much makes Howlin's case.
Actually, I pinged JR & Admin initially, to notify them of jael's abusive behavior on this thread.
Simple question or is it above your level? WHO........
No, we don't.
He is being leed by GN on the Islam problem which is what this is about, as for the liberal issues those are a whole other thing.
That is NOT what this is about; it's about you continually trashing George W. Bush and saying he's a commie rat liberal like Bill Clinton and a traitor and in bed with terrorists.
Again show me where I said by name who the traitor is
Weasel words; everybody on here knows who you meant.
besides GN
You never said that until after post 500 and that was when you've been confronted with your lies.
And you STILL have not claimed your own words on this thread. WHY?????? Embarassed?
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