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Who's with President Bush?
townhall ^ | February 18, 2003 | Frank J. Gaffney, Jr.

Posted on 02/17/2003 9:27:11 PM PST by TLBSHOW

Who's with President Bush?

President Bush has characterized the choice to be made in this war on terror: "Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists." The stark clarity of this binary decision has served the United States well in marshaling a large number of nations in the fight against al Qaeda and a smaller, but still ample, number for the next phase of this war: the liberation of Iraq.

Regrettably, in the months since September 11, 2001, people who have made no secret of their sympathy for terrorists, provided them financial support, excused their murderous attacks and/or sought to impede the prosecution of the war against them have repeatedly been put in the company of the President. In other words, individuals and organizations who appear to be "with the terrorists" have time and again been allowed to be with the President in the White House and elsewhere.

For example: o On September 20, 2001 -- just nine days after the deadly attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon -- Shaykh Hamza Yusuf was the Muslim representative in a small ecumenical gathering held in the Oval Office.

At the same time, FBI agents were trying to interview him at his house in California since he had declared two days before the attack: "This country is facing a terrible fate....This country stands condemned. It stands condemned like Europe stood condemned because of what it did -- and lest people forget that Europe suffered two world wars after conquering the Muslim lands." His wife told the incredulous agents Yusuf wasn't home, he was with the President. o Six days later, President Bush met in the Roosevelt Room with a Muslim imam by the name of Muzammil H. Siddiqi. Siddiqi is a long-time board member of several organizations in the United States funded by, and closely tied to, Saudi Arabia's radical state religion known as Wahhabism. Two of these groups, including one where Siddiqi still sits on the board, were raided in March 2002 by Federal authorities in pursuit of terrorist financing.

This presidential meeting was all the more puzzling since the imam had shown his true colors by claiming, at a rally the previous October: "America has to learn...If you remain on the side of injustice, the wrath of God will come.

Please, all Americans. Do you remember that? Allah is watching everyone. God is watching everyone. If you continue doing injustice, and tolerate injustice, the wrath of God will come." o On September 17, 2001, President Bush paid a visit to the mosque in Washington. There he was photographed flanked by Nihad Awad, the executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).

CAIR has long been an admirer and public defender of terrorist organizations whose attacks against even innocent women and children it sees as legitimate acts of "liberation." Awad has personally declared, "I am a supporter of the Hamas movement." o Also in the picture with President Bush at the mosque was Khaled Saffuri, currently chairman of an organization called the Islamic Institute, which he co-founded with conservative activist Grover Norquist.

Saffuri previously served as the development director of the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, a supporter of the Palestine Liberation Organization when it made no bones about using terrorism for political purposes. He went on to become deputy director of the radical American Muslim Council (AMC), under then-director Abduraman Alamoudi -- a publicly declared supporter of Hamas and Hezbollah, whose statements of solidarity with these groups prompted the Bush 2000 campaign to return his contributions. Under Saffuri's leadership, the Islamic Institute has attacked the Bush Administration's investigations of radical Muslim groups and closures of organizations suspected of funding terrorists.

The Institute has been funded by groups raided in the above-mentioned terrorist financing investigations. It lobbied intensively against portions of the USA Patriot Act. And Saffuri has personally denounced the President's listing of the Holy Land Foundation as a charity that supported terrorist organizations. He has acknowledged sponsoring the children of suicide bombers through the Foundation, even after its closure by the government.

In addition to the President, a number of his senior subordinates -- including Cabinet officers -- have met, in some cases more than once, with members of the aforementioned and other organizations with troubling attitudes towards jihadist terrorists. A particularly bizarre instance was FBI Director Robert Mueller’s keynote address last year to the American Muslim Council.

The AMC has a long record of activities hostile to the Bush Administration’s prosecution of the war on terror. It has even urged Muslims not to cooperate with the FBI! Nonetheless, according to a press release dated last Thursday, Mr. Mueller has invited the AMC’s chairman, Dr. Yahya Mossa Basha, to attend an upcoming meeting with him and “leaders of major Muslim and Arab-American organizations.”

It is very much in the President's interest -- and the Nation's -- that moderate, law-abiding, peace-loving and patriotic American Muslims be embraced and empowered by the Bush Administration and all those who support it in waging a war on terror, not on Islam.

To do so, however, the Administration must not allow those who are “with” its enemies in that struggle to continue being with the President and his team.


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To: TLBSHOW
I suggest you take Jim Robinson's advice---TWICE on this very thread. I don't think he gave it lightly.
501 posted on 02/19/2003 6:21:05 PM PST by justshe (Eliminate Freepathons! Become a monthly donor. Only YOU can prevent Freepathons!)
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To: Miss Marple
"real conservatives"

Now where have we heard that before?

502 posted on 02/19/2003 6:21:09 PM PST by Howlin
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To: justshe
Thanks for the welcome.
503 posted on 02/19/2003 6:21:36 PM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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To: Jael
Some advice, you had better think twice before you ever compare God's chosen people, the Jews, to a sexual deviant.

Rather than saying I said things I didn't say, could you please answer the question? I've asked it at least 3 times now.

504 posted on 02/19/2003 6:21:47 PM PST by Amelia (The new defense -- reword the question, then refuse to answer it?)
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To: Jael
I think a whole bunch of people need to be reminded that their views are in the minority..

We have the constitution and our laws to ensure fair treatment, but beyond that and with regard to social archetecture.. They (by definition) are not in agreement with the majority of Americans.

Thus, I have every right to not feel adequately represented by these people.

505 posted on 02/19/2003 6:22:17 PM PST by Jhoffa_ (Jhoffa_X)
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To: ohioWfan
Narrow?

I am a conservative. I make no apologies. Call it whatever names you want.

506 posted on 02/19/2003 6:22:44 PM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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To: A Citizen Reporter
So your a mind reader too? LOL

I don't think so, please post where I said by name who is the traitor which you can't do. The only thing you can do is imply? You have all forced me to do my research now and between 8 and 9 tonight I had some good eye openers about who is the problem and he is leeding The President down a road he should not be going. And Frank is right about it.
507 posted on 02/19/2003 6:23:30 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: TLBSHOW
I agree we need less liberal BS and more conservative issues taken care of.

ANSWER THE QUESTION TODD ...

508 posted on 02/19/2003 6:23:33 PM PST by Mo1 (DC Chapter .. Patriots Rally for America IV .. on Saturday, March 1st)
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To: mhking; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
Look MHKING, I don't know who you are and why you are trying to tell me what to do but stop.

Thanks.
509 posted on 02/19/2003 6:24:30 PM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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To: Jael
The President is a conservative. He may not be your particular brand of conservative, but he is a conservative nonetheless.

Your statement tells me that you have a political agenda and are using religious phrasing to advance it. Not a particularly honorable way to behave, IMHO.

510 posted on 02/19/2003 6:25:18 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Jael
Be good lets discuss this story and leave that stuff for another thread. This is about what Frank said

To do so, however, the Administration must not allow those who are “with” its enemies in that struggle to continue being with the President and his team.

and GN is the one!


511 posted on 02/19/2003 6:25:23 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: TLBSHOW
So why don't you step back and look into who is doing it

Are you denying your own words on this very thread?

Are you going to totally deny the things you've said on this very thread that YOU started?

It does not look like Frank plans to drop it and me I have always wondered why The President and Mr Powell attacked Pat Robertson so hard and calls Islam Peace, looks like that answer is coming rather we like what it is or not. Because Islam isn't peace its a bloody cult.
20 posted on 02/17/2003 11:06 PM PST by TLBSHOW

I think I will have to say this country is being sold out from within and from who is what really saddens me tonight.
23 posted on 02/17/2003 11:27 PM PST by TLBSHOW

Thanks, I was afraid that was going to be my confirmation about President Bush. After refusing to go after Clinton and the CFR signing I have been on a fast track to this point but always hoping I was wrong.

I have fought it tooth and nail, many times standing up for him, but in my heart with my gift when he refused to bring Clinton up on charges in an instant that day the truth was told to me and I have fought it a long time back and forth hoping I was wrong maybe once since I recieved the gift of truth. I have not ever been wrong if I follow my first thoughts and not try and fight them.

I am deeply sadden tonight and I am going to sign off for the evening with this post. Frank J. Gaffney, Jr. is correct and he will be slammed but good by these people.
26 posted on 02/18/2003 1:10 AM PST by TLBSHOW

Do you understand what is being implied in this thread? Its been a long day since this thread started and I have done nothing but study all resources that I have and I do understand even better what is implied than I did when I found this story last night at Midnight. I am still doing research and study and I hoped what is being implied would be false. I say I had hoped!
34 posted on 02/18/2003 2:22 PM PST by TLBS

Frank would not write this for the heat he is taking if he wasn't maybe on to something, what it is should be found out before like Frank says the whole consevative movement is brought down.
118 posted on 02/19/2003 2:02 PM PST by TLBSHOW



512 posted on 02/19/2003 6:25:32 PM PST by Howlin
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To: TLBSHOW
Todd:"So why don't you step back and look into who is doing it instead of in your hard headed drive to smear me its Grover Norquist."

Todd:"I do not think President Bush is a traitor and I never said he was"

To: Sabertooth

I think I will have to say this country is being sold out from within and from who is what really saddens me tonight.

23 posted on 02/17/2003 11:27 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)

513 posted on 02/19/2003 6:26:18 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Jael; mhking
Have you ever been on a thread when you didn't ping the Admin Moderator and Jim Robinson when you didn't like what somebody says to you?
514 posted on 02/19/2003 6:26:30 PM PST by Howlin
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To: jmc813
Thanks for the kind words, and I appreciate the suggestion for the Veteran's widow.

She lives near our town, and it's been a wonderful thing to see folks try and help her.

About the homosexual issue, I think conservatives would be better served by conservatives in those positions of high power. :-)
515 posted on 02/19/2003 6:26:34 PM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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To: Howlin; TLBSHOW
I don't think there's any doubt who he was referring to.

I suspect you maybe correct.... but I want to see if he has the guts to stand up like a man and so state what he meant.... or be a RATTY RAT and run and hide.......

TLBS..... WHO is the 'WHO'

516 posted on 02/19/2003 6:26:45 PM PST by deport ( uh oh 51 means what?)
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To: TLBSHOW
Be good lets discuss this story and leave that stuff for another thread. This is about what Frank said

I'm sure you wish it was, since you won't even acknowledge your OWN words.

Just leave it out there for everybody to see that you won't stand behind your very own words, words YOU wrote, not words you copied and pasted from somebody else.

517 posted on 02/19/2003 6:27:56 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Howlin, why do you troll Tlbshow? Just out of curosity. Aren't there better things to do, really? Like discuss issues? I have asked and pleaded for information about this situation, re: the article.

But you will spend all this time bashing him, and trying to bash me, and never answer the question?
518 posted on 02/19/2003 6:28:26 PM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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To: deport
but I want to see if he has the guts to stand up like a man and so state what he meant....

No, he does not.

519 posted on 02/19/2003 6:28:27 PM PST by Howlin
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To: HairOfTheDog
I've been popcorning this thread too. It's a real doozy ain't it....
520 posted on 02/19/2003 6:29:11 PM PST by rightwingreligiousfanatic (HHD)
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