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Posted on 02/17/2003 9:27:11 PM PST by TLBSHOW
Who's with President Bush?
President Bush has characterized the choice to be made in this war on terror: "Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists." The stark clarity of this binary decision has served the United States well in marshaling a large number of nations in the fight against al Qaeda and a smaller, but still ample, number for the next phase of this war: the liberation of Iraq.
Regrettably, in the months since September 11, 2001, people who have made no secret of their sympathy for terrorists, provided them financial support, excused their murderous attacks and/or sought to impede the prosecution of the war against them have repeatedly been put in the company of the President. In other words, individuals and organizations who appear to be "with the terrorists" have time and again been allowed to be with the President in the White House and elsewhere.
For example: o On September 20, 2001 -- just nine days after the deadly attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon -- Shaykh Hamza Yusuf was the Muslim representative in a small ecumenical gathering held in the Oval Office.
At the same time, FBI agents were trying to interview him at his house in California since he had declared two days before the attack: "This country is facing a terrible fate....This country stands condemned. It stands condemned like Europe stood condemned because of what it did -- and lest people forget that Europe suffered two world wars after conquering the Muslim lands." His wife told the incredulous agents Yusuf wasn't home, he was with the President. o Six days later, President Bush met in the Roosevelt Room with a Muslim imam by the name of Muzammil H. Siddiqi. Siddiqi is a long-time board member of several organizations in the United States funded by, and closely tied to, Saudi Arabia's radical state religion known as Wahhabism. Two of these groups, including one where Siddiqi still sits on the board, were raided in March 2002 by Federal authorities in pursuit of terrorist financing.
This presidential meeting was all the more puzzling since the imam had shown his true colors by claiming, at a rally the previous October: "America has to learn...If you remain on the side of injustice, the wrath of God will come.
Please, all Americans. Do you remember that? Allah is watching everyone. God is watching everyone. If you continue doing injustice, and tolerate injustice, the wrath of God will come." o On September 17, 2001, President Bush paid a visit to the mosque in Washington. There he was photographed flanked by Nihad Awad, the executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).
CAIR has long been an admirer and public defender of terrorist organizations whose attacks against even innocent women and children it sees as legitimate acts of "liberation." Awad has personally declared, "I am a supporter of the Hamas movement." o Also in the picture with President Bush at the mosque was Khaled Saffuri, currently chairman of an organization called the Islamic Institute, which he co-founded with conservative activist Grover Norquist.
Saffuri previously served as the development director of the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, a supporter of the Palestine Liberation Organization when it made no bones about using terrorism for political purposes. He went on to become deputy director of the radical American Muslim Council (AMC), under then-director Abduraman Alamoudi -- a publicly declared supporter of Hamas and Hezbollah, whose statements of solidarity with these groups prompted the Bush 2000 campaign to return his contributions. Under Saffuri's leadership, the Islamic Institute has attacked the Bush Administration's investigations of radical Muslim groups and closures of organizations suspected of funding terrorists.
The Institute has been funded by groups raided in the above-mentioned terrorist financing investigations. It lobbied intensively against portions of the USA Patriot Act. And Saffuri has personally denounced the President's listing of the Holy Land Foundation as a charity that supported terrorist organizations. He has acknowledged sponsoring the children of suicide bombers through the Foundation, even after its closure by the government.
In addition to the President, a number of his senior subordinates -- including Cabinet officers -- have met, in some cases more than once, with members of the aforementioned and other organizations with troubling attitudes towards jihadist terrorists. A particularly bizarre instance was FBI Director Robert Muellers keynote address last year to the American Muslim Council.
The AMC has a long record of activities hostile to the Bush Administrations prosecution of the war on terror. It has even urged Muslims not to cooperate with the FBI! Nonetheless, according to a press release dated last Thursday, Mr. Mueller has invited the AMCs chairman, Dr. Yahya Mossa Basha, to attend an upcoming meeting with him and leaders of major Muslim and Arab-American organizations.
It is very much in the President's interest -- and the Nation's -- that moderate, law-abiding, peace-loving and patriotic American Muslims be embraced and empowered by the Bush Administration and all those who support it in waging a war on terror, not on Islam.
To do so, however, the Administration must not allow those who are with its enemies in that struggle to continue being with the President and his team.
You should be.
There you go again, Jael.....tossing those old facts right out the window to suit your own politically motivated narrow ideology. Shame on you.
Bothers me..
I want to be represented, not sacrificed in some misguided effort to appease people with which I do not agree.
F*** inclusiveness.. Just include me out if that's the way it's going to be.
You realize that we've seen this clap-trap before, and recognize it for what it is, re-tread.
To: Amelia
Are you implying that homosexuality is something normal? Why would you say that?
Why would you think a person with a sexual deviancy is best qualified to be in a position of power?
441 posted on 02/19/2003 8:50 PM EST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
I did not state or imply whether I thought homosexuality was normal or abnormal. Please quote what I said that gave you that impression.
I try to say what I mean, and any attempts by you to "read in to" my statements will likely reflect your prejudices, not my feelings, unless you are a mindreader.
Having not seen the resumes of the contenders for the positions, I wouldn't know for certain who was best qualified. Apparently the President (who according to you selected 6 homosexuals) thought they were best qualified.
One of the "traditional" problems with having homosexuals in positions of power was that they could be blackmailed. If someone is openly homosexual, I wouldn't think that would apply.
"I do not think President Bush is a traitor and I never said he was"
To: Sabertooth
I think I will have to say this country is being sold out from within and from who is what really saddens me tonight.
23 posted on 02/17/2003 11:27 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
Well, since you were replying to this remark
Today's terrorists have full entrée into the White House.
19 posted on 02/18/2003 2:04 AM EST by Sabertooth
It's not all that hard to figure out.
I suggest you read up on the issue before you start making fun of people.
Now, may I ask you a serious question to which I would like a direct an honest answer, Jael?
Have you ever accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, recognizing that you have been redeemed by His blood shed for you on the cross?
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