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Who's with President Bush?
townhall ^ | February 18, 2003 | Frank J. Gaffney, Jr.

Posted on 02/17/2003 9:27:11 PM PST by TLBSHOW

Who's with President Bush?

President Bush has characterized the choice to be made in this war on terror: "Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists." The stark clarity of this binary decision has served the United States well in marshaling a large number of nations in the fight against al Qaeda and a smaller, but still ample, number for the next phase of this war: the liberation of Iraq.

Regrettably, in the months since September 11, 2001, people who have made no secret of their sympathy for terrorists, provided them financial support, excused their murderous attacks and/or sought to impede the prosecution of the war against them have repeatedly been put in the company of the President. In other words, individuals and organizations who appear to be "with the terrorists" have time and again been allowed to be with the President in the White House and elsewhere.

For example: o On September 20, 2001 -- just nine days after the deadly attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon -- Shaykh Hamza Yusuf was the Muslim representative in a small ecumenical gathering held in the Oval Office.

At the same time, FBI agents were trying to interview him at his house in California since he had declared two days before the attack: "This country is facing a terrible fate....This country stands condemned. It stands condemned like Europe stood condemned because of what it did -- and lest people forget that Europe suffered two world wars after conquering the Muslim lands." His wife told the incredulous agents Yusuf wasn't home, he was with the President. o Six days later, President Bush met in the Roosevelt Room with a Muslim imam by the name of Muzammil H. Siddiqi. Siddiqi is a long-time board member of several organizations in the United States funded by, and closely tied to, Saudi Arabia's radical state religion known as Wahhabism. Two of these groups, including one where Siddiqi still sits on the board, were raided in March 2002 by Federal authorities in pursuit of terrorist financing.

This presidential meeting was all the more puzzling since the imam had shown his true colors by claiming, at a rally the previous October: "America has to learn...If you remain on the side of injustice, the wrath of God will come.

Please, all Americans. Do you remember that? Allah is watching everyone. God is watching everyone. If you continue doing injustice, and tolerate injustice, the wrath of God will come." o On September 17, 2001, President Bush paid a visit to the mosque in Washington. There he was photographed flanked by Nihad Awad, the executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).

CAIR has long been an admirer and public defender of terrorist organizations whose attacks against even innocent women and children it sees as legitimate acts of "liberation." Awad has personally declared, "I am a supporter of the Hamas movement." o Also in the picture with President Bush at the mosque was Khaled Saffuri, currently chairman of an organization called the Islamic Institute, which he co-founded with conservative activist Grover Norquist.

Saffuri previously served as the development director of the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, a supporter of the Palestine Liberation Organization when it made no bones about using terrorism for political purposes. He went on to become deputy director of the radical American Muslim Council (AMC), under then-director Abduraman Alamoudi -- a publicly declared supporter of Hamas and Hezbollah, whose statements of solidarity with these groups prompted the Bush 2000 campaign to return his contributions. Under Saffuri's leadership, the Islamic Institute has attacked the Bush Administration's investigations of radical Muslim groups and closures of organizations suspected of funding terrorists.

The Institute has been funded by groups raided in the above-mentioned terrorist financing investigations. It lobbied intensively against portions of the USA Patriot Act. And Saffuri has personally denounced the President's listing of the Holy Land Foundation as a charity that supported terrorist organizations. He has acknowledged sponsoring the children of suicide bombers through the Foundation, even after its closure by the government.

In addition to the President, a number of his senior subordinates -- including Cabinet officers -- have met, in some cases more than once, with members of the aforementioned and other organizations with troubling attitudes towards jihadist terrorists. A particularly bizarre instance was FBI Director Robert Mueller’s keynote address last year to the American Muslim Council.

The AMC has a long record of activities hostile to the Bush Administration’s prosecution of the war on terror. It has even urged Muslims not to cooperate with the FBI! Nonetheless, according to a press release dated last Thursday, Mr. Mueller has invited the AMC’s chairman, Dr. Yahya Mossa Basha, to attend an upcoming meeting with him and “leaders of major Muslim and Arab-American organizations.”

It is very much in the President's interest -- and the Nation's -- that moderate, law-abiding, peace-loving and patriotic American Muslims be embraced and empowered by the Bush Administration and all those who support it in waging a war on terror, not on Islam.

To do so, however, the Administration must not allow those who are “with” its enemies in that struggle to continue being with the President and his team.


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To: Amelia
Are you implying that homosexuality is something normal? Why would you say that?

Why would you think a person with a sexual deviancy is best qualified to be in a position of power?
441 posted on 02/19/2003 5:50:48 PM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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To: HairOfTheDog
That is a good synopsis
442 posted on 02/19/2003 5:51:01 PM PST by woofie
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To: ohioWfan; Jael
I stopped posting yesterday on this thread and I was going to look into it more.

I do not think President Bush is a traitor and I never said he was but I am searching why Frank thinks there is a problem and I believe it goes to Norquist as he says and Norquist is the key to this mystery.

What I think is Norquist is leeding President Bush astray.

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The Two Faces of Islam: The House of Sa’ud from Tradition to Terror
by Stephen Schwartz


LAMB: You also say that Grover Norquist, who -- who is he, by the way?


SCHWARTZ: Well, Grover Norquist is a very prominent fund-raiser, and what can I say, wheeler dealer and fixer in the Republican Party, Republican circles and in the conservative movement. And Mr. Norquist is someone who had -- prior to September 11, had cultivated the Muslim leadership in the United States, the Arab-American leadership in the United States, and had attempted to bring the American Muslim and Arab-American communities into the Republican camp, kind of as a parallel, I think, to the role of Jews in the Democratic Party. And he had formed an alliance which still he maintains with, essentially, the same group of people, the same Wahhabi, Saudi-backed radical Muslim figures who have had and had taken over and continue to exercise great influence in the leadership of the American Muslim community.

http://www.booknotes.org/Transcript/?ProgramID=1713
443 posted on 02/19/2003 5:51:13 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Are you saying it's just fine and dandy for sexual deviants to be given positions of power? And that over good loyal conservatives?

Why did the Christian guy get dumped by Bush after the homosexual lobby complained about him?

Plenty of Christian conservatives complained about Bush putting sexual deviants in high positions of power like he did.

Did Bush listen to the conservatives? Why not?
444 posted on 02/19/2003 5:53:03 PM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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To: Jael
Which people in this administration - or any administration - are sinless?
445 posted on 02/19/2003 5:53:43 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("Uncommon valor was a common virtue." - Admiral Chester Nimitz)
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To: Jael
Which six sodomites did Bush appoint instead of good loyal conservatives?

I'm still waiting to hear you explain what one's sexual practices have to do with one's political principals.

Do you not think there are homosexuals who favor limited government?

MUST one be a Christian to be a conservative? Are Jewish people allowed in your Konservative Klub?

446 posted on 02/19/2003 5:54:34 PM PST by Amelia
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To: deport
Im worried ...I think I am starting to understand this thread...but when did the ratty rats and the homosexuals disagree with traitor Bush the communist and Frank Gafney? Also, does 351 have something to do with Joe Millionaire?
447 posted on 02/19/2003 5:56:05 PM PST by woofie
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To: Jael
Wahhabi

Saudi Smokescreen
By Rebekah E. Reese
FrontPageMagazine.com | December 16, 2002

The Saudis are selling themselves as abused good guys and the State Department and the White House are buying it.

There is a tug of war going on in America between those who believe that the Saudis are directly or indirectly responsible for a good portion of Islamic terrorism, and those who believe the Saudis are good, long-standing allies of the United States and are doing everything possible to assist the U.S. in its fight against terror. The Saudis have of course been avidly promoting the false latter angle, but have simultaneously done little about the real sources of terrorist support in their country.

The Saudis are only willing to address terrorism and their role in financing it when confronted directly. Otherwise, they equivocate, hesitate and glad-hand with American politicians and reporters to prove to the world how moderate, modern and congenial they are.

Since 9/11, the Saudi public relations machine has been trying to convince the American public and government of their friendship while ardently disavowing Saudi involvement in the attacks or in al Qaeda. Shortly after the attacks, the King's nephew Prince Alwaleed bin Talal attempted to appease America with a $10 million contribution to New York City. The Saudi royal family has purchased full-page newspaper ads in national papers as well as national TV spots. Several American PR firms have been retained by the Saudis. One was used to distribute a document to Capitol Hill staffers, another is placing ads proclaiming the Kingdom as a staunch U.S. ally, and yet another was hired to push the Saudi's "peace plan," after it was released last winter. Their smiling, American and Americanized spokespersons are on a campaign to spread love of this quasi-medieval kingdom that is deeply ambivalent about America.

Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah leaked his "peace plan" for Israel and Palestine to New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman in February 2002. The plan was a distraction attempt, since there was nothing in the peace plan that had not already been suggested, save that after Israel and Palestine became peaceful, the Saudis would graciously recognize the state of Israel. When news of the plan came out, the Saudis had been taking a beating in the American court of public opinion due to their unwillingness to work with the U.S. in the war on terror. The peace plan and the media frenzy that followed temporarily distracted attention away from the Saudi's connections to terrorist organizations, and gave them breathing space. The Saudi government, or at least its paid consultants in Washington, are nothing if not shrewd, being gifted with the political skills of the bazaar and those required to stay alive in the lethal but always-shifting political sands of the Middle East.

The Saudis did something similar in November 2002, when the news broke that Princess Haifa al-Faisal, wife of Prince Bandar, the Saudi ambassador to America, indirectly financially supported two of the 9/11 terrorists. A firestorm of outrage and accusation broke out against the Saudis. Adel al-Jubeir, a top foreign affairs aide to Crown Prince Abdullah, was the main spokesperson at a news conference December 3. He tried to put a good spin on the recently publicized details regarding how frequently Saudi royal funds end up directly supporting terrorists. Al-Jubeir, incidentally, announced new Saudi measures to regulate the flow of such funds.

The American-educated al-Jubeir, also known among the media as "the Sultan of Spin," is smooth and articulate. He presents Saudi Arabia as being much-abused and insulted by the accusations against his beloved nation. He portrays himself as the voice of reason who must somehow explain the simple ‘truth’ to befuddled American masses - who do not truly understand the real issues. He is tasked with communicating how hard the Kingdom is trying to halt terrorism. Al-Jubeir gently condemned allegations of terrorist funding, proclaiming that they were "More a function of domestic American politics. We're just the political football."

Although the Saudi government presents a friendly, supportive face to the West, it presents an entirely different one to Muslims. The Saudi state religion, Wahhabism, is an extreme sect of Islam invented in the 18th century and intimately tied up with the legitimacy of the al Saud family as rulers of the kingdom. Its closest analogy within the Judeo-Christian tradition would be one of extreme varieties of Protestantism that once existed: perhaps Calvinism in its original form, or perhaps the militarist Puritanism of Oliver Cromwell. The Sauds feel obliged to support it, both for the practical reason of maintaining the support of local clergy, and for the ideological reason that they have no other political philosophy. The two main Saudi exports are oil and religion. Without their religious foundations, it is unlikely that the nation of tribes could have held together. The discovery and drilling of oil cemented the foundation. The Saudis deliberately export, at huge financial expense, their peculiar brand of Islam around the world in an attempt to gain political influence and to placate their own extremists. The money that the Saudis receive from oil exports has been used to support various terrorist organizations and Wahhabi indoctrination centers worldwide. A majority of American mosques are Wahhabi-financed.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=5104
448 posted on 02/19/2003 5:56:33 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: mhking
I don't know who you are and I don't care. Let that be enough for you right now.

If you can't follow a thread, go away.

449 posted on 02/19/2003 5:56:45 PM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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To: TLBSHOW
"Either you are with us or you are for the terrorists."
~~George W. Bush
450 posted on 02/19/2003 5:57:51 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Me=sinner
You=sinner
Jael=sinner
Amelia=sinner
Howlin=sinner
TLBSHOW=sinner
Homosexuals in the Bush Administration=sinners

We're all equal. And anyone's personal relationship with Jesus Christ is between the sinner and Jesus.
451 posted on 02/19/2003 5:58:09 PM PST by wimpycat (Well it's good that you're fine and I'm fine. I agree with you. It's great to be fine.)
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To: TLBSHOW
I do not think President Bush is a traitor and I never said he was

To: Sabertooth

I think I will have to say this country is being sold out from within and from who is what really saddens me tonight.

23 posted on 02/17/2003 11:27 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)

452 posted on 02/19/2003 5:58:31 PM PST by Howlin
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To: deport
never mind #443 cleared it all up ...It was Grover Norquist
453 posted on 02/19/2003 5:58:40 PM PST by woofie
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To: mhking
BTW, if you too are not a real conservative, that isn't my problem. Face the fact, supporting and condoning sexual deviancy is not a conservative value.

454 posted on 02/19/2003 5:59:03 PM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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To: Fred Mertz
The Wahhabi Lobby Loses


Wednesday, August 21, 2002
By Frank Gaffney, Jr.


Yesterday's primary defeat in Georgia of Rep. Cynthia McKinney marks the latest in a series of serious setbacks to what has become known as the Wahhabi Lobby.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,61006,00.html


455 posted on 02/19/2003 5:59:17 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Howlin
Grover Norquist

is who
456 posted on 02/19/2003 6:00:16 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: TLBSHOW
Those are your words, Todd. Live with it.
457 posted on 02/19/2003 6:01:39 PM PST by Howlin
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To: ohioWfan
If the President has not rebuked these people who are around him who are involved in terrorism, it is you that has the probelm.

Do you remember 9/11?
458 posted on 02/19/2003 6:02:58 PM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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To: TLBSHOW
"I do not think President Bush is a traitor and I never said he was"

To: Sabertooth

I think I will have to say this country is being sold out from within and from who is what really saddens me tonight.

23 posted on 02/17/2003 11:27 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)

459 posted on 02/19/2003 6:03:20 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Jael
You seem really obsessed with Homosexuals! I just avoid that which I find distastful. You seem to like to roll in it.
460 posted on 02/19/2003 6:03:33 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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