Who's with President Bush?

townhall ^ | February 18, 2003 | Frank J. Gaffney, Jr.

[TLBSHOW]

Who's with President Bush?

President Bush has characterized the choice to be made in this war on terror: "Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists." The stark clarity of this binary decision has served the United States well in marshaling a large number of nations in the fight against al Qaeda and a smaller, but still ample, number for the next phase of this war: the liberation of Iraq.

Regrettably, in the months since September 11, 2001, people who have made no secret of their sympathy for terrorists, provided them financial support, excused their murderous attacks and/or sought to impede the prosecution of the war against them have repeatedly been put in the company of the President. In other words, individuals and organizations who appear to be "with the terrorists" have time and again been allowed to be with the President in the White House and elsewhere.

For example: o On September 20, 2001 -- just nine days after the deadly attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon -- Shaykh Hamza Yusuf was the Muslim representative in a small ecumenical gathering held in the Oval Office.

At the same time, FBI agents were trying to interview him at his house in California since he had declared two days before the attack: "This country is facing a terrible fate....This country stands condemned. It stands condemned like Europe stood condemned because of what it did -- and lest people forget that Europe suffered two world wars after conquering the Muslim lands." His wife told the incredulous agents Yusuf wasn't home, he was with the President. o Six days later, President Bush met in the Roosevelt Room with a Muslim imam by the name of Muzammil H. Siddiqi. Siddiqi is a long-time board member of several organizations in the United States funded by, and closely tied to, Saudi Arabia's radical state religion known as Wahhabism. Two of these groups, including one where Siddiqi still sits on the board, were raided in March 2002 by Federal authorities in pursuit of terrorist financing.

This presidential meeting was all the more puzzling since the imam had shown his true colors by claiming, at a rally the previous October: "America has to learn...If you remain on the side of injustice, the wrath of God will come.

Please, all Americans. Do you remember that? Allah is watching everyone. God is watching everyone. If you continue doing injustice, and tolerate injustice, the wrath of God will come." o On September 17, 2001, President Bush paid a visit to the mosque in Washington. There he was photographed flanked by Nihad Awad, the executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).

CAIR has long been an admirer and public defender of terrorist organizations whose attacks against even innocent women and children it sees as legitimate acts of "liberation." Awad has personally declared, "I am a supporter of the Hamas movement." o Also in the picture with President Bush at the mosque was Khaled Saffuri, currently chairman of an organization called the Islamic Institute, which he co-founded with conservative activist Grover Norquist.

Saffuri previously served as the development director of the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, a supporter of the Palestine Liberation Organization when it made no bones about using terrorism for political purposes. He went on to become deputy director of the radical American Muslim Council (AMC), under then-director Abduraman Alamoudi -- a publicly declared supporter of Hamas and Hezbollah, whose statements of solidarity with these groups prompted the Bush 2000 campaign to return his contributions. Under Saffuri's leadership, the Islamic Institute has attacked the Bush Administration's investigations of radical Muslim groups and closures of organizations suspected of funding terrorists.

The Institute has been funded by groups raided in the above-mentioned terrorist financing investigations. It lobbied intensively against portions of the USA Patriot Act. And Saffuri has personally denounced the President's listing of the Holy Land Foundation as a charity that supported terrorist organizations. He has acknowledged sponsoring the children of suicide bombers through the Foundation, even after its closure by the government.

In addition to the President, a number of his senior subordinates -- including Cabinet officers -- have met, in some cases more than once, with members of the aforementioned and other organizations with troubling attitudes towards jihadist terrorists. A particularly bizarre instance was FBI Director Robert Mueller’s keynote address last year to the American Muslim Council.

The AMC has a long record of activities hostile to the Bush Administration’s prosecution of the war on terror. It has even urged Muslims not to cooperate with the FBI! Nonetheless, according to a press release dated last Thursday, Mr. Mueller has invited the AMC’s chairman, Dr. Yahya Mossa Basha, to attend an upcoming meeting with him and “leaders of major Muslim and Arab-American organizations.”

It is very much in the President's interest -- and the Nation's -- that moderate, law-abiding, peace-loving and patriotic American Muslims be embraced and empowered by the Bush Administration and all those who support it in waging a war on terror, not on Islam.

To do so, however, the Administration must not allow those who are “with” its enemies in that struggle to continue being with the President and his team.

[Neets]

It's just another RATTY RAT RAT RAT day to him.

Someday maybe (although I think that day has come) he'll finally go over the edge and wear out his welcome.

[justshe]

(wink)

[ohioWfan]

He turns it around and uses theology against President Bush, when Bush makes a political secular decision.

Yes, I've seen that.

There's a clear difference between those who have a spiritual worldview, and place their politics within the parameters of Scripture, and those, like Jael, who have an ideological/political position, and use the Bible as a weapon against all those who don't agree with them.

You can see it in the distortions and evasions in his posts.

[bonfire]

Todd is too busy at his job to answer your question right now.

[justshe]

You asked for the questions to be re-posted. This is, by the way, I think the 7th time I have posted them. Are these your words.....and do you stand by them?

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It does not look like Frank plans to drop it and me I have always wondered why The President and Mr Powell attacked Pat Robertson so hard and calls Islam Peace, looks like that answer is coming rather we like what it is or not. Because Islam isn't peace its a bloody cult.
20 posted on 02/17/2003 11:06 PM PST by TLBSHOW

I think I will have to say this country is being sold out from within and from who is what really saddens me tonight.
23 posted on 02/17/2003 11:27 PM PST by TLBSHOW

Thanks, I was afraid that was going to be my confirmation about President Bush. After refusing to go after Clinton and the CFR signing I have been on a fast track to this point but always hoping I was wrong.

I have fought it tooth and nail, many times standing up for him, but in my heart with my gift when he refused to bring Clinton up on charges in an instant that day the truth was told to me and I have fought it a long time back and forth hoping I was wrong maybe once since I recieved the gift of truth. I have not ever been wrong if I follow my first thoughts and not try and fight them.

I am deeply sadden tonight and I am going to sign off for the evening with this post. Frank J. Gaffney, Jr. is correct and he will be slammed but good by these people.
26 posted on 02/18/2003 1:10 AM PST by TLBSHOW

Do you understand what is being implied in this thread? Its been a long day since this thread started and I have done nothing but study all resources that I have and I do understand even better what is implied than I did when I found this story last night at Midnight. I am still doing research and study and I hoped what is being implied would be false. I say I had hoped!
34 posted on 02/18/2003 2:22 PM PST by TLBS

Frank would not write this for the heat he is taking if he wasn't maybe on to something, what it is should be found out before like Frank says the whole consevative movement is brought down.
118 posted on 02/19/2003 2:02 PM PST by TLBSHOW

[Darlin']

Given enough bandwidth, that envy thingie can't help but reveal itself.

[cyncooper]

I don't believe I said he was a traitor it is what people have said I said.

Explain this:

To: Sabertooth

I think I will have to say this country is being sold out from within and from who is what really saddens me tonight.

23 posted on 02/17/2003 11:27 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)

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[wimpycat]

I'm conservative, the President is conservative, and I'm with the President.

BTW, is your opposition purely political, or do you actually support President Bush as Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces?

[Howlin]

Well, it looks like once again questions will go unanswered.

I just don't know what to make of somebody who won't stand by his owns words.

[bonfire]

"but in my heart with my gift"



Can anyone translate this?

[TLBSHOW]

In no way is he suggesting that Bush is a traitor. He's suggesting that the White House should not be meeting with these characters. I agree. I also notice that these meetings took place in 2001. Why Gaffney is bringing it up now I have no idea. I think he's criticizing Bush's political team for setting them up to begin with.
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I agree with that too, The president should not meet with these people.

TLBSHOW

He also brings up this.

Nonetheless, according to a press release dated last Thursday, Mr. Mueller has invited the AMC’s chairman, Dr. Yahya Mossa Basha, to attend an upcoming meeting with him and “leaders of major Muslim and Arab-American organizations.”

AND THAT IS WHERE HE SAYS WHAT YOU WROTE AND THAT WAS LAST THURSDAY....

"To do so, however, the Administration must not allow those who are “with” its enemies in that struggle to continue being with the President and his team."

Like I said I was trying to get more infromation before I proceeded but Howlin decided to bump it to everyone because of a space shuttle thread that wasn't going her way earlier today!

[ohioWfan]

Ah......do you suppose he'll get off work by 2004? I'd really like an answer.

[cyncooper]

In addition to what you were obviously saying about President Bush, you posted many articles in an effort to buttress your repugnant point.

Naturally you missed the mark, but your intent was clear.

Howlin did a service to FR to call our attention to this clear expose of your character (or lack thereof).

[deport]

When the posts tend to be incoherent due to poor grammar, spelling, and syntax, making the poster appear uneducated and/or ignorant, that's a red flag.

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LOL...... well don't leave out the ability to count to 51.... RATTY RATS run out of toes and fingers, don'tcha see.

[Mo1]

Haven't read the entire thread but is Todd suggesting that Bush is the anti-Christ?

Not yet .. maybe he is saving that for another thread

[bonfire]

Yep. Today he's busy backpeddlin'

[TLBSHOW]

I had stopped posting on the thread and I had wanted more information on this subject. I did not bump it today someone else did. Sorry you want to slam me when I thought it was a story that needed more looking into.

[TLBSHOW]

Where did I say that, boy oh boy thats a stretch!

[bonfire]

So Howlin' made you post this thread?

[cyncooper]

Haven't read the entire thread but is Todd suggesting that Bush is the anti-Christ?

Not yet

Actually, yes he did:

To: TLBSHOW

So this information points to him being the one "whose name we shall not speak?"

Do you understand what is being implied in this thread?

33 posted on 02/18/2003 1:49 PM PST by mabelkitty

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To: mabelkitty

Do you understand what is being implied in this thread?

Its been a long day since this thread started and I have done nothing but study all resources that I have and I do understand even better what is implied than I did when I found this story last night at Midnight. I am still doing research and study and I hoped what is being implied would be false. I say I had hoped!

34 posted on 02/18/2003 2:22 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

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